All ActivityMost RecentMost LikesSolutionsRe: The Ultimate DIY thread - Ubuilding (Pics)Last time I weighed it, it was about 450 lbs without batteries. It's probably still pretty close to that, but I'll weigh it tonight. I hear you on the battery care. At the marina we swap out batteries every 4 years because people DON'T maintain them. Just today I was readying a boat that hasn't seen its owner in 2 years. I'm not putting new batteries in it until the last minute so we can set up a charging schedule (which most people don't want to pay for and some think we should do for free) EDIT: weight is about 665lb including one of the two batteries, so about 600lb without or 720lb with both batteries. With what I have left to do, I'm pretty sure I'll come in under my 1000lb target.Re: The Ultimate DIY thread - Ubuilding (Pics)Gentlemen ! Things are definitely picking up but I'm never too busy for you fellas. The build is clipping along nicely...though a lot has happened since I last posted. To catch up: The galley It's all framed in now and I've started slopping some paint around. There are two kick@ss LED dome lights in the hatch and four lights under the upper shelf shining down. More downlights will go underneath the counter top to light up the storage below, just on the right side since the cooler is in the left side. In the right side will be a naptha stove, fuel jug and the "kitchen" tote that I use for truck camping. The fuse panel on the right side will be boxed in and will include an AC outlet. And this is what will feed it: On the left is the battery switch. I salvaged that from a couple ambulances I scrapped out 20+ years ago. I have the other one...somewhere :) Next to it is a basic 1kW Xantrex that I got a screaming deal on. The battery charger below that is a new acquisition - it's a ProMariner 3-bank charger that has a bit of a history... A customer complained that his batteries weren't getting charged. As it turns out, he had his batteries replaced a while back and they installed AGMs in place of flooded batteries. This charger doesn't have a profile for AGMs and but they sold him the new batteries anyway...at $500 a pop. It was easier to rationalize $800 for a new charger that could AGMs vs switching him back to floods for $500 plus losing the $1500 he had already spent. As a result, I wound up with the old, dead unit. I'm no electronics whiz by any stretch, but I replaced a blown cap, one that was questionable, and two glass fuses and whaddya know, it works like a hot damm ! The box it's bolted to is the battery box, accessible from outside. Between the battery box (2 batts) and the front of the box (left in pic) there is just enough room for another battery. That's where the battery for the trolling motor will live and will be charged off the third bank of the charger. I still don't have room for solar, but.... When the weather's good for generating solar, I will never have more than a weekend off. When I have time off, it's winter on the west coast and the sky is grey/white for months at a time. I don't have the real estate on the roof for panels but I do have space on the roof racks and in the tongue box for a generator and a jerry can. This is the battery box, sized for two group 31 deep cycles. That will give me 200 A*h of battery which is more than I'll ever use for weekending but there's a reason for the overkill. When we change out a battery in a boat after 4 years or so, it still has 'some' life left in it. I get the best of the dead ones for the core charge ($20) and use them till they die. If I wind up using the trailer enough to justify it I'll buy new batteries, but until then... So...I know you're asking "But Deadeye, the battery box holds two but it's a three-bank charger." Between the battery box and the front wall of the tongue box, there is just another room for a third battery....for a trolling motor for the boat on the roof racks, of course ! This is how I sealed the galley hatch hinge. I made a curb of 1/2" ply to mount the forward hinge leaf to, so that it would never be in standing water. That got glued down with sealant and screwed through every other hole. The remaining holes were for aluminum strips that would hold down a piece of fabric-reinforced gasket to keep rain out. I don't see why it wouldn't work...but it hasn't been tested yet. I also did a curb when I put the roof hatch & skylight in: I think that's pretty much up to date now. I want to camp in it for the third weekend of May (long weekend here) but I have long since given up making hard deadlines, so we'll see... Moderator edit to re-size picture to forum recommended limit of 640px maximum width. Re: 12v led wiringYes of course that's right. Thx Bobbo.Re: Table/bed modification suggestionA shorter section of the same pipe used for the leg will support the center as well. And yeah, pressboard tables are garbage: use plywood.Re: 12v led wiring rrev wrote: I'm trying to figure out how to wire a led strip inside my pass through compartment that has a push button to turn on the light when you open either door.Do I need to run wires from one side to the other between the switches like a 3 way in your house? Do I need a special switch? Anyone ever do this? Or you could just use NO (normally open) pin switches like the fridge light or the dome lights in your car ? Had your rig come with that as an option, that's how it would have been done. Wired in parallel and then to the light, the light will go on when either of the doors is opened and off when they're both shut. No 3-way wiring, no worry about the lights being left on accidentally, and no need to switch the negative lead. Easy peasy.Re: The Ultimate DIY thread - Ubuilding (Pics)That sounds like it would be a great platform for an electric conversion and it ought to be pretty straightforward to convert a shaft drive. With the cost of lithium batteries coming down so fast already, it will be interesting to see what happens to the price when Musk's new battery plant in Reno is up and running. Then you're going to see electric everywhere. Well, probably never in RVs :)Re: The Ultimate DIY thread - Ubuilding (Pics)Thx for checking in, westy. Interesting that you bring up the solar... With the solar kit I've got, I was using it for about a year to make my toast and coffee in the morning in the old house - not because I had to, but to prove its practicality. My work (marine mechanic) gives me access to an almost unlimited supply of old outboards with blown powerheads. A pet project that's been rolling around in the mad-scientist area of my brain (the wackybellum ?) is to convert an old outboard to electric. On my bench right now is an old 1968-ish Kiekhafer 39 (4hp Merc) that is getting a motor from an electric bike. It's a 'prototype' for a bigger one using an electric car motor and a 150hp donor motor. The trick is to keep the original cowl so it all looks like a classic motor. Most folks around here run their boats from our marina for 10-15 minutes to the cabin where it sits for a week. Then they run it back to its slip where it sits until next time they come up from town. That's an ideal usage curve for electric and solar panels will have plenty of time to put the amps back into the battery between visits. But I digress... Your comments about solar are exactly why I want to put them onto hinged panels. That way I can secure them to the roof racks under the boat for longer trips and set them up wherever I need to in camp. I don't anticipate needing them for weekend trips since I have 200 A*h of battery and very little draw (mostly just LED lighting). As you pointed out, being on the BC coast is pretty tight country so you do have to pick your spots. You know the old saying about finding north by which side of the tree the moss is thickest on ? That doesn't work here because it's carpeted all the way around the tree, lol. Even still, you can always find a patch of sunshine...though it's not usually where the trailer is, so portable panels might be the better way to go anyway. Fortunately I have power where it's parked now so I can leave the charger on while it's parked, which was one of my motivations for roof-mounted panels. It looks like tomorrow I'm ordering the ball studs for the gas spring for the hatch so I can sort out the geometry before I start framing in the galley cabinets. I'll order the door handles at the same time. This weekend will be eaten up installing the EPS foam insulation inside the cabin. I hear you on the relationship thing: happy wife = happy life. While camping solo is great and is something everyone should do, it's also great just to have my own crash pad when I'm camping with buddies. I like having a tent to myself and a tiny trailer insures I'll get to keep that :) I don't know how often I'll update, but at the very least I'll get some pics of the first trip.Re: The Ultimate DIY thread - Ubuilding (Pics)Hey! Sorry to hear your camper build didn't see the end but it looks like you're charging on in a new direction...so am I but I guess we need to catch up a bit first. I had separated the shell into a few pieces and stowed them until I had the space to carry on. As of August and our move into a much bigger place (3000 sq ft vs 900) I was in a position to carry on, but the pieces didn't survive the move. Truth be told, by the end of it I just wanted to be done with moving and figured I could rebuild whatever I needed to while correcting all those little compromises that had been nagging at me. One of the changes will be to use a coring foam like Divinycell or Klegecell and polyester resin in a more conventional layup. In retrospect, the savings in using XPS foam (blue/pink) as the core were more than eaten up with the cost of epoxy, the quantity of which I had underestimated. As time went on, it seemed like I was putting more money in glass onto a core which wasn't everything it could have been. I had also had some issues with the floor delaminating so it was like the old dilemma of what to do when you're building a house and you realize there are problems with the foundation. The one I'm building now is stick-frame and ply and I'm sheathing the outside in glass (you know there had to be glassing involved somewhere!) I've sanded, etched and painted the jalousie window frames from the Glacier and am using the roof vent and inverter from it as well. I kept the appliances I refurbished for the Glacier for the next build, which will be a similar full-height, lightweight project...although on a wider platform. I also kept the door I made up though I don't know whether I'll use it or not. The next one will likely be built for some level of off-roading and, since the Ranger's days are likely numbered, the next truck will be a 4X4. My primary tow vehicle for this one will still be the Ranger though it's off the road right now. It needs a clutch and, after having done the last one laying under the truck, I'm going to pull the motor and tranny out together and do it on the ground. At the same time I'll do the timing belt and head gasket since it's out. Of course, it's crossed my mind more than once to put a 5.0 back in instead of the four-banger.... In the meantime, we bought an Escape back in March. It has the 2.0 turbo....and a tow capacity of 3500 pounds ! I could never feel comfortable towing that much weight with it, but the trailer as it sits right now is only about 500 lbs. We still need to get a hitch installed on it, but that's not a big deal. When I started the Glacier, I was under the impression that, if I made if comfortable enough, she-who-camps-with-me might get into the whole camping thing. We've been together 20-odd years and it turns out she was just humoring me when she came camping...I almost wish she'd been having an affair instead, hehe. Anyway, that made me look at my priorities again and I realized that all I really needed was a kitchen and bed for one person that was always ready to roll. Less time setting up camp means more time on the lake or chasing deer... So this is what those priorities became: The new platform gives me a bed that's 52" X 79" and still enough depth in the galley for a 24" deep counter top with a cooler stowed underneath it. I just finished the glassing on the roof tonight (hence the work light) and started pulling wires inside to get ready to insulate and panel the interior. The hatch at the back opens to the galley and the entire inside of the cabin is a mattress. The tongue box holds two deep cycle batteries for the trailer and another for a trolling motor for the 7.5' Livingston dinghy that will be on roof racks. Also in there is a 3-bank battery charger and 1000W inverter. At this point I foresee no real need of AC power but I'm sure that if I install the outlets they'll get used... I also have no plans for an entertainment system but I'm still wiring for speakers as well as 12V and 110 for it. There's no way I can fit the solar panels on top of this roof (I brought all of my Tetris skills to bear in trying to make it work) so they'll get save for the next one. I've been thinking about mounting them to hinged ply panels like the suitcase kits but that's a project for another day. We have a month-long shutdown at Xmas so I want to be able to camp in it by then. I don't expect it'll be 'finished' but...are they ever ?Re: The Ultimate DIY thread - Ubuilding (Pics)Mike, you speak the truth about life getting in the way, lol. Camping was great - good friends, good weather and the fish were hungry...what more could one ask ? Heya westy, I hear you on the 'rustic' thing ! It used to be a handful of pasta and some chopped up salami, which always encouraged me to become a better fisherman. As to the solar, I don't really even care if my little array provides useful power so long as it lets me go a little longer between charges and keeps 'em topped up while in storage. I've just got the one battery right now but I think I'll be wiring the switching and fusing for 4 isolated group 31s. Even so, making my coffee every morning with 'free' energy is pretty sweet... I guess as we get older and craftier, we figure out how to have it all rather than just bulling our way through stuff on brute force and ignorance - though I speak only for myself of course ;) Once I've got space to work I will definitely be carrying on with the build and I'll update here as well. For now, the parts are nested under a tarp - it's actually surprising that most of the shell is stacked right there. Re: The Ultimate DIY thread - Ubuilding (Pics)Thanks for continued interest in the build, guys. 'Project Glacier' was a perfect name for this build given the pace. I started a new job in the spring and it's kept me too busy to build. Besides, the fishing's been FAR too good this summer :) Earlier this year I got frustrated with the lack of work space at the house so the shell is now in smaller pieces stored under the deck until we move, probably in the new year. I wanted to glass bigger panels than it's currently in, but this is a workable solution given the space I have. I'll pull them out one at a time, glass them and put them back into storage. Some of the corners may not hold their angles exactly, but I can fix that as I'm glassing them all together later. One of the great things about composites is the flexibility to rejoin the panels however I need to without losing structural strength, so I'm not too worried about it. I have enough of a shape now that I won't need the 1X4 formers anymore. As I was pulling them out, I was actually surprised at just how much room there was inside. I mean, of course it'll fill up quick as I start building up the inside but I think that pushing the side wall out was worth the extra work to pick up the extra width. I don't have the storage space that those (square) corners would normally give, but the whole point of this build is to leave the junk (and its weight) at home. I wasn't really happy with the way the sandwich floor came out, so I cut it up and took it to the dump. I have the dimensions from it so I can rebuild it easily enough. I think I'll use 1/4" marine ply for the upper and lower skins and 2" foam for the core. Despite being encapsulated in epoxy, using the luan was a mistake made in the name of cost, as was using EPS (white) foam instead of XPS (pink or blue) for the core. Fortunately, my work situation now means I don't have to make such deep compromises. I'm back onto using the appliances again despite the space they take up and I think I just found (this past week) a local source for the cartridge heater the fridge needs. I've also got a local plastics guy who's going to make up a replacement window for the cracked one in the marine hatch that I'm using for the vent/window in the head. Because it's on the forward slope of the nose, a glass window there wouldn't survive the first logging road. Using the hatch means I won't need a stone shield for towing. I'll get him to make up a spare as well, just in case... I'm moving away from using the windows I salvaged in favor of tinted frame-less windows. The cedar frames for the skylight windows went together pretty well (though they're not finished yet either) - so I may do something similar and use the top-hinged rear windows from a full size van since they are flat. Instead of having them kick out an inch or so at the bottom, I'll use hinges in the top holes that will let me open them right up as an awning window. I don't know that I'll be able to get hinges that will mate directly to the holes in the glass, so I'll use the regular round inserts that the factory hinges screw to and run a strip of aluminum bar stock across the inside that I can tap for whatever hinges I want to use. I'm sure I rambled about it a few pages back, but I've got my solar panels up on the roof of the house and feed them into a 100 A*h deep cycle. From there it's into an inverter to run the espresso machine in the kitchen. I've been doing that as a tester for over a year now. I brought my load tester home from work last week and the battery still has its original capacity. Even at my latitude and with out grey coastal winters, the solar works well enough that I will put those panels on the roof instead of using that space for skylights (there's not enough roof area to do both). I've been spending most of my spare time this summer fishing and now we're getting into my favorite season for camping - I'm actually leaving in a couple hours for the first trip of the year - but I will be back onto the build soon and I'll resume here when I do. Again, thanks for sharing your interest in the project and for following along. It's been a long road so far but I still think it's be the best option for my vehicle and for how I like to camp, which tells me I must be on the right track...
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