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Re: ATC 25 ft toy hauler w front bedroom
I checked out the video on the DF 21 foot. I think we will need more room now that we're getting a bigger truck. I looked at the 25 and 27 foot DF, and really like them too, but they are just about as expensive as the ATC. That Outdoors RV looks pretty well built too. I've never seen one of those. If I knew where in Oregon the factory was, I might go check them out. I'm in Oregon too.570Views0likes0CommentsRe: ATC 25 ft toy hauler w front bedroom
normal_dave wrote: I'm a big ATC fan as well, but if you want a quality, small toy hauler, single bike, and you're in Oregon, have you looked at Northwood's Desert Fox 21SW? Heavy Duty frame, aluminum wall construction. Pretty good stuff. Desert Fox 21SW I haven't looked at the Desert Fox, but other people have told me the same thing. I'm still talking to the ATC dealer, but having a difficult time getting it configured the way I want. I'm also worried about spending an extra $20k to get all aluminum. I know it's much more durable, it won't rust or rot, but if I get a late model very clean used conventional built toy hauler, can I keep it maintained well enough to prevent those problems? With a slightly used toy hauler, I won't lose as much value when I buy it. If I spend $30k instead of $50k, I won't have as much of my money tied up in it, and stand to lose less when I try to sell it someday.569Views0likes0CommentsRe: ATC 25 ft toy hauler w front bedroom
erip wrote: Interested in knowing what dealer you ordered from.. I have also researched to exhaustion and really like the ATC, especially the options to build it to your needs. I have also found ATC to be really responsive to questions. Personally i would opt out of the generator and get the solar package.. I have done a little pricing and have found a bit of dealer price variation.. I would want to pick it up at the factory to get the best PDI and to actually see the construction.. I am also impressed with all the owner feedback. There's been virtually no dissatisfaction. Buying used is not a great option since both the kitchen area and windows have been enlarged, making it even more attractive. I sent you a private message.570Views0likes0CommentsRe: ATC 25 ft toy hauler w front bedroom
I'm probably going to order one in the next week. I've been so intent on researching, that I think I need to take a step back and breathe for a few days before I bite the bullet. I've eliminated some of the options trying to get the price below $50k, but it wasn't easy. One that I took off my list was the floor insulation. I think it could be applied later if I find that I need it, and possibly not be so expensive. I'm trying to eliminate items that can be installed later. ATC says that one of the most popular options is the "Airline Track" in the floor, so that you can place tie downs wherever they're needed. I don't really need that, since D-rings would work well for me, but since the track can't be added later, and I think it will help me sell the trailer someday, I'm probably going to get it. I just need to think about other subjects for a few days, and see how I feel about the cost of the ATC after that.570Views0likes0CommentsRe: ATC 25 ft toy hauler w front bedroom
hvac wrote: All glass widows. Metal roof. Genny in front. Quality of cabinet's and no sharp edges and doors.Ramp strength, Fit and finish. ATC is in this for the long haul. Living lite?? Its still a no wood offering however and that separates it from the pack. 13k is a lot of money. Big decision. Resale value?? I do like the generator location on the ATC better. Also the cabinet strength, location, and abundance. Livin' Lite is either going to stop building aluminum frames, or stop building Quicksilver altogether this year (depending on who you ask), but the vast network of dealers will still service them in the future. Much of the $13k difference in price is the list of options, and the shipping. They want $3500 to ship it to Oregon, but I could go pick it up for less than 1/2 of that. They also want $7750 for the Onan 5.5kw generator. I can find the same generator brand new online for 1/2 of that. How difficult is it to install? I don't think it would cost $3000-3500 just for installation. The "airline track recessed floor" tie down option is $690, but Quicksilver doesn't even have that. If I take some of that stuff out, and also just have standard white or black paint, the prices of Quicksilver and ATC are much closer. I keep wondering about resale value also. Is there a strong enough demand for the ATC that you can sell one easily after 5-10 years? Are there enough buyers willing to pay the extra for the lightweight, no rust, no rot option? I know I am. I would buy a used one right now if I could find one, but there are none I can locate in the country. That makes me think it would be easy to sell later, but it probably depends on what's available in the market when you try to sell. I know the majority of buyers want the plush amenities in a wood built TH more than the durability of aluminum, or else there would be more companies building the aluminum. It's true that I have a big decision. Right now I'm about worn out from doing research for the last several months.375Views0likes0CommentsRe: ATC vs. Quicksilver
I know that the Quicksilver frame is all aluminum, but not sure about the roof surface. The brochure says, "Alpha Superflex Roof w/12 year Limited Warranty (more durable, less chaulking and streaking)" Also, the Quicksilver just went to Fiberglass siding this year because they say that it's more durable against small impacts such as rocks and baseballs, and won't dent. They say that the aluminum sides dent easily and are nearly impossible to repair. I know the ATC feels stronger to me when I walk through it, but the ceiling is much lower, not allowing much versatility for furnishing in the back. We would like a couch or dinette under the happijac bed, but there's not enough ceiling clearance to get it up and out of the way to walk under. We want to delete the dinette next to the kitchen and have a couple of swivel chairs there.408Views0likes0CommentsATC vs. Quicksilver
I'm new on this forum. I'm looking for a fully aluminum constructed toy hauler. As far as I can tell, only ATC and Quicksilver build them. I'm considering buying either an ATC 25' with a front bedroom or a Quicksilver 26', and living in it for part of the year with my wife. We just sold our house and moved 250 miles to another town and job. I don't want to buy a home in the new town for a year or two, and would rather pay for a toy hauler than rent a home. My wife is completely on board with this idea. ATC seems to be a little higher quality and has a better floor plan, but the Quicksilver is about $13k lower with similar equipment. I also hear that Livin' Lite will quit building the Quicksilver soon, so if I decide to buy one of those, I will need to order it STAT. Does anyone have any thoughts, ideas, suggestions? The primary reason I want aluminum is for weight, but I also like the strong "tank" like qualities with aluminum vs wood frame construction.3.9KViews0likes4CommentsRe: ATC 25 ft toy hauler w front bedroom
hvac, I'm new here. Just joined so I could do some research and ask questions about the ATC. I'm looking at probably buying an ATC 25' with a front bedroom and living in it for a few months with my wife. It sounds like you've done that with yours. Before you bought it, did you compare it to the other aluminum TH on the market, Quicksilver? My wife and I have looked at both. ATC seems to be a little higher quality and has a better floor plan, but I think the Quicksilver might be much less expensive. I also hear that Livin' Lite will quit building the Quicksilver soon, so if I decide to buy one of those, I will need to order it soon. Thanks, John377Views0likes0Comments
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