All ActivityMost RecentMost LikesSolutionsRe: Anyone interested in 83 Pace Arrow Tear down and Rebuild?Maybe a little late, but i'm really impressed by how consistent you got the bends - well done! When I saw what you were bending, I didn't think it would work, but I'm glad I was wrong.Re: Newbie - '90 Holiday Rambler Limited DP Sagging Ceilinghi Mike Thanks for the instructions... here is an overall photo I took. I hope it posts OK. It's sagging in the rear due to an air leak I haven't had a chance to address yet. It does come up fairly quickly, and the primary & secondary reservoirs retain pressure for hours after it's shut down, so i hope it will be a simple fix. The paint job is a 15' paint job... looks graet from 15' away, but as you get closer, it looks less good - LOLRe: Newbie - '90 Holiday Rambler Limited DP Sagging CeilingI have some pictures, but not sure how to post them. BTW, drove it home Saturday about 125 miles, and ran great. Steering felt loose, and got blown around quite a bit from strong sidewinds, but may be due to tires not being at full pressure. Will be filling them in the next day or so and driving it to check for effect. I was pleased by how quiet it was :)Re: Newbie - '90 Holiday Rambler Limited DP Sagging CeilingJust to update all that helped with advice... My wife returned last week to look at the coach again, and specifically the roof. She determined that the roof was very solid, and it was only the vinyl that had unglued from the roof. As for the jacks, it was clear that they worked in the very recent past. The dealer (consignment) was on the phone with owner, who kept telling them to "try this...", but in the end, they didn't work. Hopefully, we can get them working for not too much $$. She negotiated with them very successfully, and we are now the happy owners of this great coach. The deal is closed, insurance in place, now just waiting for the check to clear. We hope to pick it up this coming Saturday. I've had lots of very helpful comments and messages, and it looks like there's lots of help available on this forum. Reminds me very much of another forum in which I'm active (Concours Owners Group), with lots of knowledgeable members who are willing and able to offer good advice. Hopefully I will be able to contribute once in a while to the knowledge base.Re: Newbie - '90 Holiday Rambler Limited DP - HWH Jack SystemThanks again guys. We looked at a 1992 CC this weekend, and it convinced me more of the possible worth of the HR. The CC has pieces of the basement frame that had rusted away - completely gone in several places. Great powertrain (Cummins 8.8L with MT747) but I don't want to be anywhere near it when the body drops off the frame. We're going to take another look at the HR Limited. From the coaches we've considered, it's one I think can give us many years of relatively little problem, and it fits our intended use. BTW... We have a 1989 Boat with tandem trailer... and the original tires!! Previous owner only towed from barn to dock, to shop for end-of-season maintenance/winterizing (it was in Michigan), and then back to barn. I always carry a spare, and check pressure religiously. Yes, I know I'm on borrowed time on those tires - LOL.Re: Newbie - '90 Holiday Rambler Limited DP Sagging CeilingJust to update... They turned down our offer for $14K, so we're walking. Thanks for all the help!Re: Newbie - '90 Holiday Rambler Limited DP - HWH Jack SystemThanks all. They started out asking in mid/high #20s; now asking $15,500. Coach is VERY rust free everywhere for it's age, has very good condition Michelins, and shower wear but no abuse. We offered $14K, and they said no, so we're walking. We'll keep looking. Thanks again for all the great info. JorgeRe: Newbie - '90 Holiday Rambler Limited DP - HWH Jack SystemThanks guys. We're going to make an offer, and it f we meet on pricing, will go Saturday to close the deal. Fortunately, I think all the manuals are in the coach. Including Cat engine, Gillig, HWH, and so on. There's a pile about 8" thick (or more) with manuals under the dinette seat.Re: Newbie - '90 Holiday Rambler Limited DP Sagging CeilingHi Mike, First, THANK YOU for the detailed info. That's the info I wanted, and it makes sense. When I was on top, the aluminum would "give" a little, then it was firm - the skin moving until contacting the plywood. There is also a joint down the middle with solid support. On the inside, the vinyl could be pushed up easily, but only so far, and then it was pretty solid, I could deflect it a little more, but not easily. No crunching sounds a doing this, in retrospect, it's how you'd expect luan backed by foam to feel. As far was water intrusion, we checked all the overheads and saw no evidence at all. We're going to call and make an offer, reduced to compensate for some if the things we will need to address. If we meet on price, we'll test drive it Saturday. Thanks again to all that helped!! JorgeRe: Newbie - '90 Holiday Rambler Limited DP Sagging CeilingThanks NW, I think I know what you are describing. They make similar ones to hold up sagging car headliners. As I thought about this more, I realized that the sagging section may be below a luggage carrier on the roof. This makes me want to check this out. If we go back, what I think I will do is take a long pick, and go through the seam of the vinyl and poke what is above the liner. If it's solid, we're good; if it's soft, no-go. Does anyone know what is actually above the roof liner? Is it metal, wood, plywood, or?? Thanks again for all the great advice.