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Re: Newbie..Trailer to big?
am1958 wrote: I drive 65 with the cruise on whereever possible and everything is fine. The truck has no problem pulling the weight even on steep hills where I would put it into tow/haul mode when going downhill so the engine takes the pressure off the brakes. You know the sway control is engaged when the information panel tells you it is operating. It disengages the cruise if it is engaged and brakes gently. After it did it a couple of times and I got used to it I would just immediately re-engage the the cruise since there was no perceptible sway. The system seems very sensitive to sudden but relatively small movements of the trailer probably because I believe the system is designed to detect and react to prevent the sway from properly starting but in the winds I was being exposed to a sudden crosswind only briefly and that initial movement, (barely perceptible by me), must be all it takes to trigger the system. Funnily enough, or the rare occasions when a big truck goes flying by and hits me with the "wind wall" making the trailer "wobble" very perceptibly the sway control doesn't kick in. Hasn't display anything yet...so maybe my wobble is just me being a tad sensitive.469Views0likes0CommentsRe: Newbie..Trailer to big?
Old-Biscuit wrote: AS posted... Max sidewall psi on truck & trailer tires Then go to a set of scales and get weighed....CAMP READY (you/passengers/pets/backpacks, bags, stuff, trailer filled up with needed items and full fresh water tank) Truck & trailer with WDH Truck & trailer w/o WDH hooked up Truck alone (just drop trailer in lot and go reweigh) With the weights from those 3 weighings you will have all numbers needed to make an informed decision Truck GVWR (always lower then the sum of axle ratings cause you can NOT equally load truck) Truck FAWR Truck RAWR Truck MAX LOAD Rating A at MAX PSI (on sidewall) Trailer tongue weight Trailer GVWR Over on Trucks GVWR---- Not that big of an issue Over on Trucks Payload...not good but not real big issue Over on Trucks RAWR....not good but how much---decision time Over on Trucks Rear tires.......BAD...REAL BAD Over on Trailers GVWR....not good---need to lose some stuff (shouldn't be an issue unless you pack EVERYTHING when most of it is not needed) :B:B Yeah thats the game plan...haven't had a chance to run this drill just yet. Heres a question for you, what if I weight my truck no trailer and the front axle weight in at 3600lb, once the WDH is fully hooked up, the front now weight 3300 lbs...is that right, if not how can I put some of the weight back to the front, minus taking the spare tire and putting it on the hood..jk?469Views0likes0CommentsRe: Newbie..Trailer to big?
Terryallan wrote: so. 65 to 70. That is the top, and over the top speed your tires are rated for. Slow it down. As mentioned. Air your tires, Trailer, and TV to their max PSI. The TT will follow anywhere you want to go. Air in my truck tires are Max at 80psi. I made the mistake and air it to 65psi prior to picking ups the truck. BAD move as i was going around a turn, hit a few bumps and went sideways a tad. But I also feel that air the tires up to their max would be to much if I don't have the appropriate load...right? Trailer tires definitely looks tad soft, so I agree maybe airing it to the max-5psi..?470Views0likes0CommentsRe: Newbie..Trailer to big?
budwich wrote: your trailer tire pressure is too low. As for the rest, as others suggest it is "on the border" so you can judge for yourself based on those responses. What's your recommendation? I've read and found a mix review. I was thinking of maxing the PSI which was around 65psi i believe.311Views0likes0CommentsRe: Newbie..Trailer to big?
am1958 wrote: I drive a 2014 F-150 XLT Supercrew with a sticker payload of 1440. It pulls a Bullet Premiere 31BHPR that weights in at about 7500lb Family = @ 400lb Weighed tongue weight = 960 Cargo in the bed = @ 100-150lb That puts me about 100-150lb over payload. I have towed it nearly 10,000 miles without incident, (outside of my own stupidity - nothing to do with weighs and speeds ;) ), including a 1600 mile trip through the mountains of Virginia and West Virginia two weeks ago with the first day having high wind warnings all through the mountains. The trucks anti-sway kicked in by cutting the cruise and gently braking 4 or 5 times at quite predictable locations, (breaks in trees, cresting ridges etc.), and that was before I really thought there was an issue. The transmission fluid gets to around 200-204C on hot summers days and I have been assured by the dealer's head mechanic that I needn't worry about that temp until 219C. All in all it has been a pleasure to drive. Thanks for the feed back. I feel like I may exceed my payload by a few hundred myself, how serious is it to exceed payload? Thanks for the info on the tranny temp, the hottest it got was 200F, but then again it was only 55F in Alberta yesterday. I was wondering what temp was to much for the tranny. I don't plan to take it over any mountains, relatively stay within 8 hours drive one way. How do you know when your truck anti-sway are active? noise, feel..etc311Views0likes0CommentsRe: Newbie..Trailer to big?
DutchmenSport wrote: Any suggestions or recommendation. Don't try to keep up with traffic driving that fast. It's not worth it. Drive what feels comfortable AND safe. 60 mph is pretty much my limit, even on interstates, and I'm driving a 3500 duly diesel. Yea I was driving around that 60-70 MPH and felt okay. Did feel it get swirly a tad, but nothing to scary. i felt like more of a jerk holding up traffic more than anything.312Views0likes0CommentsNewbie..Trailer to big?
Hello all... Purchased a used 2007 Forest River Surveyor SV29. We're super excited about the adventures and open roads ahead of us. However I thought I had the number right and now I'm have second thoughts, maybe I'm doing to much research and the knowledge I'm picking up is scarring me ;-0 Here is a list of what have: 2013 Ford F-150 EcoBoost GVWR 7200 Front GAWR 3750 Rear GAWR 3850 (How is it that both axle combine exceed the GVWR?) Payload (Yellow Sticker) 1231 Michelin Load Range E (New) Curt WDH with Sway TruTrack 2007 Forest River 29' GVWR 7420 UVW 4820 Charlie Tire (New) So if I apply my calculations: Weight just in our family of 4 plus dog is 560lb. That leave wiggle room of only 671lbs for tongue weight and cargo. However from what I've read you want the tongue weigh to be around 12% of total trailer weight. If I assume that we will carry 700lbs of stuff...total trailer weight is 5520lbs, 12% of that is 662lbs. Plus my hitch is around 75lbs so I'm just over. I pulled it around today and it sure is heavy, but I manage to drive 65/70 mph alright. Air in my truck tires were around 50psi and trailer was around 35 psi. Any suggestions or recommendation.4.6KViews0likes25CommentsRe: Newbie towing recommendation
Man...I want to attemp th combination so bad, because of the size and price point. I know it will probably tow it and I know it would be a struggle, but could be done. However given my experience level, I rather not risk injurying anyone to include the public.412Views0likes0CommentsRe: Newbie towing recommendation
jerem0621 wrote: Welcome Laziebun, You did a good job giving us a lot of info to start with. Your Truck is a very capable Half ton truck. Are the trailer weights you posted the brochure weights? If so, I would make some assumptions until you actually weigh the truck and trailer. 1) I would figure 1,200-1500 lbs added to the above trailer weight as you "ready to camp" weight. Also, don't believe yourself when you say you will camp light. Over time your trailer will get heavier. You will eventually buy trailer only items (pots, pans, etc) along with many other things. 2) your tongue weight right now is less than 10% which is not good for pulling a TT. You need 10-13% tongue weight. So, 13% of 7,500 lbs is going to be about 975 lbs. 3) figure your trucks available payload. There should be a yellow sticker in your drivers door jamb that should say something along the lines of " the combined weight of passengers and cargo should never exceed xxxx lbs. you need to make sure you have enough payload to cover your family's weight, the tongue weight, and the weight distribution hitch head....along with anything else in the truck. (This is how people end up with 3/4 or 1ton trucks and realize that the tow rating is essentially useless for a TT and a 1/2 ton combo. You run out of payload way before you run out of tow rating...generally speaking) 4) make sure your weight distribution hitch bars are rated for at least 1,000 lbs...1,200 would be better. If they are 800 lbs bars, I don't think they are big enough for your application. Make sure the weight distribution hitch is set up and spot on. This is not hard to do yourself...take your time and do this yourself. 5) depending on what kind of WD hitch you have you may have sway control built in. If you have a standard WD hitch which requires separate sway bars be sure you use two of them. This is my preferred hitch as I like being able to remove the sway control on gravel roads or in icy/slick conditions while retaining my WD abilities. 6) air your tires up to the Max PSI on the sidewall of the tires for towing purposes. This is subjective but my experience this is helpful in firming up the ride on a half ton while towing a large TT 7) your mpg will be 7-10 while towing. Probably average around 8 mpg. You will feel the trailer back there. You will get use to it. 8) if you don't have OEM towing mirrors then ensure you get a good set of towing mirrors. I like the JR products Grand Aero's or the CIPA Slip on mirrors for your specific truck. 9) buy a power tongue jack if your trailer didn't come with one. Many choices here, Barker and Atwood seem to be the best... all are helpful...for me it turned hitching up into a breeze. Thanks! Jeremiah Payload- you're right there is a sticker on my door and it's 123- lbs. just the tongue weight alone will have me pretty much reaching the payload capacity. Unfortunately this TT is a no go. Last thing I want to do is put the family at risk. Thanks everyone for your input.413Views0likes0Comments
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