All ActivityMost RecentMost LikesSolutionsRe: Medium size toy HaulerI have a Rubicon 1905 it has floor plan similar to the Jayco you mentioned. It has a larger fresh water tank than the jayco at 82 gallons and 42 for black and gray. The main difference between the two would be the beds in the rear. I see the jayco has the happy jack bunks that suck up to the roof. The rubicon does not have that bunk bed just the dinette that folds up vertical to the walls. That does offer some some storage down both side above the dinette. It is aluminum siding and has a rubber roof. It has been hit by hail and no damage. with either the fiberglass or the aluminum the sun will do some damage. My siding has been fine but I have had the UV paint applied to the roof every 2 years. Had to replace the plastic vent covers and some of the plastic lanyards on my plugs for city water, dump tanks, etc.. have all broken due to the sun. This was my first trailer and got it when it was just my wife and I. It works great but I wish I had a walk around master bed. I just have to remind myself that I could be sleeping in a tent. We are soon to be a family of 4 and this trailer will still fit our needs. Not sure how many people you will have in yours but the rubicon is maxed with 4 people. So if you have a larger family or growing family the jayco maybe better.Re: Toy Hauler or Truck bed rack?I had a F-150 with the 4.6L V8 and traded it in for a Ram 2500 diesel after my first time out with my rubicon 1905 toy hauler. Dealing with the mountains you will want the extra truck. I have not had any of those decks but have looked at them for snowmobiles. After doing the math I would be over weight and upgraded again to a Ram 3500 as I plan to get a sled deck next year. My new 3500 rides just as good or better than my 2012 2500 did if your worried about that.Re: Labor Dayheading to Pine valley UT the day after Labor day.Re: Advice in buying toy haulerIf you are going to use it to haul toys then think about toys you may get and not what you have. I got my trailer when I had ATVs and no kids. Now I have 2 kids and we are thinking about a side by side instead of the ATVs. We have enough sleeping room but will be tight as the kids grow. If we get a side by side we will be limited on only a few models that will fit. Think ahead on what toys you may get or if your family is going to grow. Also water tanks I wish they had larger gray tanks. Mine has 45 gallons both black and gray. I wish I could take half of my black tank and add it to my gray. 45 gallons of black water is a lot of bathroom breaks.Re: Propane campfire recommendationgo to lowes or home depot. Got mine at lowes $99. We love to have a night fire as well but the wood fire smoke really bothers the wife and I. Dont have to worry as much about fire restrictions, can have a full fire right up till you want to go to bed and shut it off. Tons of perks. The one I got from LowesRe: National ParksI think your trying to do to much. If it was me that would be at least 2 trips. Grand Canyon, Zion, Bryce, Arches (which also has canyonland near by) then do a trip up north to Yellowstone, Tetons, and Glacier. To do all of those you listed in 1 trip I would need at least a month. Even with a smaller 22 foot trailer heading to those parks up north you will want a nice TV. You have a lot of mountains to go up, down, and around. Side note I have been to all of those parks and it will be a beautiful trip even if you are only able to see 2 or 3 of them during one trip.Re: Need some help - going on a trip Thursday (well maybe) dvitale300 wrote: The seating of the connections might be the trick. I went out about an hour ago, unplugged a few of the switches, blew on them, cleaned them with a rag, unplugged the thermostat coil, plugged it in. Turned on the unit - fire up, click, click, click, then stopped with the light next to the switch. Said F-it - came in to check this forum, had dinner, went out a little while ago - working to perfection. Water is very hot, system was waiting for a drop in temp - then re-cycled on to reheat new water. Going to go on the trip - and if the thing doesn't work will get a $29 hotel for showers (we're boon-docking so it's less than a hook-up anyway). When this is all over I'm going to replace the unit with a gas/electric unit - which is what I should have had in the first place. If your going to replace it I would look into a instant/tank less unit. I have seen them in some of the high end RV's. Thats my plan if/when my water heater goes out.Re: when 45 gallons is really 35 gallons!!!My question is how big is your grey water tank? You plan to have 100 gallons or more between your trailer tank and the bladder. My problem is I have 82 gallons of fresh water but only 42 grey.Re: Small Toy Hauler With Outside Storage or Seperate GarageCheck out the brand crossroads. They have some with the front deck that is hard sided (no popup or soft pop outs). I have a 1905 (19 foot) Rubicon toy hauler I can fit 2 utility quads (7ft long 4 ft wide) in there. The only problem is you have to take them out to use the camper (which is only a problem when it takes more than one day to get to your destination). I didn't want a big trailer either for the places I like to go. I also was thinking about one with the front deck but I didn't want to tow to the extra 8-10 feet of trailer when I didn't take the quads. Also 8-10 feet to get into tight spots. Also figured if I was going to have a 30 ft trailer I wanted it to be all living space. once you get to your site that front deck to me is wasted space. I have never had the gas smell people say you get with them inside and I have stored the quads in there all winter before. Hope this helps.Re: Newbie questionTo compare I have a 19 ft rubicon toy hauler which is about 5700lbs (dry) then add my Harley super glide just a normal cruiser and it is about 680lbs, my freshwater tank holds 82 gallons (~ 650lb), then add gear, kitchen stuff, propane, batteries, etc... you will be well over the 1000lbs you estimated. What I would look at is what does the trailer weigh and how much is the cargo capacity. Then get a truck to meet or even better to exceed that (in case you get a larger trailer later on). I started towing that rig with a 2011 F-150 V8 5.4L and it worked it hard and it also squatted the truck big time. After about 3 trips I traded it in for a 2012 Ram 2500 with a cummins and dont regret it one bit! Towing that setup with the cummins on flat ground I will get 12/13 MPG, mountains 9/10MPG the F-150 was lucky to get 10 MPG. Trailer hardly even drops the rear of the new truck maybe inch or 2 and the extra power is nice for the hills, also the heavier duty truck is much more stable towing. It is also my daily driver, I get about 19 MPG on the highway and 14ish in town. If it wasn't for the mountain driving out west I would have prolly gone with a 2500 gas to save some money on the price of the truck. Hope this helps.
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