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Re: Winnebago View 24
I agree on the propane usage estimation being two high. I just got back form a 3 month trip. most of the time fridge was on propane, furnace used at night and cooked most meal inside RV. Typical usage was 8 gals over 2 weeks which meant I easily could had gone 3 weeks. Hardest thing to get was potable water. Beats me why states rest areas have a sewer dump but no potable water. makes sense if you are dumping, you would need to take on wate897Views0likes0CommentsRe: Considering a Class B
Nothing wrong with talking about the choice between a B or a C in a Class B forum. It is a natural discussion as people are trying to decide whether a B or a C is best for them. I personally have found the Bs too small especially in the bath area with the Travato being the exception. I like to point to those who are considering a B vs a small C that there is as not much difference in size as B owners would lead you to believe. Yes there may be extreme cases where a small B might be able to go where I can't, but I also have higher ground clearance than a lot of Bs so there are places I can go where Bs can't. However in 99%.9 percent of the cases where people want to go, Bs and Cs can follow each other. I do like the stealthiness of B and also the increase in drivability but also like the interior room that a small C provides while still being close in size to a B. I have driven both and my small C drives very close to a B. I do detect a religious fervor for those that own Bs and that's OK, but we all are here to help one another. Maybe you should visit the C forums;)478Views0likes0CommentsRe: Advice on purchasing a used class B
The Travato both 59K and 59G layouts have decent size wet showers. The other Bs IMHO have poor excuses for showers. The 59K has the most open layout while the 59G may have the most floor space due to the murphy bed design. You may also want to look at the slightly larger B+ or small Cs unless you desire the stealth look which a true B provides but sacrifices room and holding tank sizes.240Views0likes0CommentsRe: Leisure Travel Vans
You can also buy used if you want to save $$$. I picked up a real clean 2002 23' Coach House for 25% what a new one would cost. I'll probably invest $4-5K into doing some upgrades, but I feel I'm still money ahead even if I get some unexpected repairs. With my upgrades I will get Bluetooth, NAV, Sat radio, 2 backup cameras, 40" TV with Blu Ray player w/300W inverter, 200W solar and a 4 stage charger. I figured 30 days of hotels and meals will run you about $4500/mo. Use the RV 3-4 months out of the year it makes good sense. And we haven't even talked about the travel comfort of traveling especially with a dog and the conveniences of having your home on wheels with you.1.1KViews0likes0CommentsRe: New Roadtrek 'Zion'-----promaster
gerrym51 wrote: tbirdman wrote: I like to see the Zion in person. Someone needs to be creative e in the bathrooms. The 59K with the flip up sink seems very innovative. Someone needs to come out with a shower with walls that slide out. You only use the room a few times a day, so someone needs to get creative. May instead of a slide out you have a bathroom slide in:-) I think you answered your own comment'you only use the room a few times a day'. Yes but the bathrooms now are total unusable in the current configurations today. My comment by a couple times a day was meant to indicate that having a bathroom expand to take up some aisle space only a couple times a day, would not be a huge inconvenience.198Views0likes0CommentsRe: New Roadtrek 'Zion'-----promaster
I like to see the Zion in person. Someone needs to be creative e in the bathrooms. The 59K with the flip up sink seems very innovative. Someone needs to come out with a shower with walls that slide out. You only use the room a few times a day, so someone needs to get creative. May instead of a slide out you have a bathroom slide in:-)198Views0likes0CommentsRe: New Roadtrek 'Zion'-----promaster
However for resale probably want to keep it suited towards two passengers as that is the dominate buyer. But if they could only make the bathroom a little bigger. I thing the 59K hits the bathroom but misses on a lot of other things. They appear to at least alleviate the space hogging fresh water tank ottoman. So far I think the Zion is much better depending on the bath. Otherwise I may have to go to a bigger B+/C like the Pleasureway Prestige and sacrifice the stealth camping, ease of parking and the ability to keep it in my driveway.201Views0likes0CommentsRe: New Roadtrek 'Zion'-----promaster
The Zion and the Travato 59K both look promising. The one unanswered question for the Zion is how big is the bathroom. It appears to be larger than normal with a curved door. Why these class B don't take an extra 4-6" of aisle space for the bathroom which would make all the difference. To bad the 59K flip up sink is not implemented in the Zion. I think the Zion with it's features is a clear winner over the 59K except for the bathroom. The 59K wasted space in my opinion with the fridge on the floor. I fully don't understand the 59K layout although it's a big improvement over the 59G. It be nice if there was an option in these class B's for a single person traveling with a large dog. One of those rear beds could either be eliminated or made to flip up so you get more floor space. Of course then you give up storage. As a single person I don't need two beds/loungers or as much storage. I need more floor space and an a bigger bathroom.198Views0likes0CommentsRe: Portland RV show
Looking at the full dry baths as suggested...the Winnebago 70C and the Leisure Travel Free Spirit SS could work for stealth camping. I read on one post that the bed on the SS can be extended except of the last 16" with the slide closed to allow sleeping with the slide not extended. That would probably be good enough for me to sleep diagonally as I'm 5'7". The length of the bed would be 5' 2". Not perfect by doable for a short person. Not sure about the 70C and if you extend the bed part way. The Coachhouse Arriva may be too pricey, but I could eliminate one fo the twin beds for more room. May have to move up to a B=, but these three possibly could work for me and my 85 lb dog.542Views0likes0Comments
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