All ActivityMost RecentMost LikesSolutionsRe: The difference between dry an loaded weight.yeah I never travel with water tanks full. There more I read this forum the more I think im different style than many of you guys. We have like three spots we camp at that are all less than 50 miles from home. We dont take a lot with us and really only own a camper for the A/c while sleeping. We also almost never use our bathroom and go to the bathhouse if its close by.Re: The difference between dry an loaded weight. jerem0621 wrote: jhelms89 wrote: here is my weight. as I said I weighed the blankets, sleeping bags, pans, toolbox, etc. and it looks like it was only 264 lbs. Last time we went the groceries weighed about 25 pounds Zero Gravity Chair 17.6 Zero Gravity Chair 17.6 Trash Can Holder 1 Levelers 6.5 Plastic Bowla 1 Toilet Paper 2.5 30 amp extension 8.4 Full Sheets 2.5 Pie Iron 4 50 ' hose 7 4 Wheel Chocks 2.5 3 shelf linen grip 1.25 25' hose 3.5 Port-a-pac 0.75 30-15 amp adapter 1 Pressure Regualtor 0.5 Plastic cups 1.46 Plastic Serving Utensils 1.5 50' Extension cord 3.5 Rug stakes 0.5 15' Sewer hose 2 Rug 8 Sugar 2 Salt 1 Flour 2 Filters 2 Kids chairs 11 Fire Grill Grate 5.8 Fire Teepee 5.6 Plastic Table 21 all bedding 18 15" cast iron skillet 11.5 Sauce Pan 2 Cast Iron Dutch Oven 18.4 Tool Box 14 Coleman Latern 2.5 Camping stove 24 2 pie single pie irons 5.5 4 towles, 6 wash, 1 hand 5.5 silverware, knives, board 4.5 totes 9.5 cleaning supplies 2.5 Shovel 2 total 264.86 Good effort. Question, where is the propane tanks, the battery, and do the kids not ride bikes? What about your games for rainy days? Do you have a TV the dealer installed, that needs weighed too. What about you clothes and toiletries? How about the spare tire carrier and spare tire. This stuff really adds up quick. These are the little things that can add up real quick. Some TT’s have very low CCC so between your list and mine we would be over. I ended up with 1,500 lbs over UVWR ready to camp. Thanks! Jeremiah Spare tire is in the truck. Bikes are in the truck. No games for the kids but i suppose that's a good idea. I admit we didn't weigh clothes but we didn't take a lot. Honestly im one of the guys that camps for the weekend and doesn't usually shower or wear a bunch of different outfits. Many times we drive our van as well and pack some extra stuff in there if needed. The way i look at it is that im "camping" the only real reason I own a TT is that I cannot sleep when I hot and I need the a/c.Re: The difference between dry an loaded weight.here is my weight. as I said I weighed the blankets, sleeping bags, pans, toolbox, etc. and it looks like it was only 264 lbs. Last time we went the groceries weighed about 25 pounds Zero Gravity Chair 17.6 Zero Gravity Chair 17.6 Trash Can Holder 1 Levelers 6.5 Plastic Bowla 1 Toilet Paper 2.5 30 amp extension 8.4 Full Sheets 2.5 Pie Iron 4 50 ' hose 7 4 Wheel Chocks 2.5 3 shelf linen grip 1.25 25' hose 3.5 Port-a-pac 0.75 30-15 amp adapter 1 Pressure Regualtor 0.5 Plastic cups 1.46 Plastic Serving Utensils 1.5 50' Extension cord 3.5 Rug stakes 0.5 15' Sewer hose 2 Rug 8 Sugar 2 Salt 1 Flour 2 Filters 2 Kids chairs 11 Fire Grill Grate 5.8 Fire Teepee 5.6 Plastic Table 21 all bedding 18 15" cast iron skillet 11.5 Sauce Pan 2 Cast Iron Dutch Oven 18.4 Tool Box 14 Coleman Latern 2.5 Camping stove 24 2 pie single pie irons 5.5 4 towles, 6 wash, 1 hand 5.5 silverware, knives, board 4.5 totes 9.5 cleaning supplies 2.5 Shovel 2 total 264.86Re: The difference between dry an loaded weight."I don't understand how you could have 1196-1396 lbs of cargo (6400 less 5004) in a 25 foot TT". Im with you. I weighed every single item we put into our current TT and it was only 284 lbs of stuff. Thats with water tank empty of course. To be fair though we are weekend warriors at local state parks and such. we dont take a whole lot.Re: CCC when parkedso the TT I looked at has about 1200 lbs CCC. when we have other family with us we have people weight of nearly 1200 lbs. So yeah with water and gear we would be way over GVWR. I called the manufacturer Grand design and they told me the CCC is just for when towing. They said there would no problems with sleeping the 8-10 people as stated when parked and exceeding the GVWR.Re: CCC when parked ScottG wrote: Yes, within reason. Don't want to bust a spring. It has more to do with tires, axles, etc, while going down the road. ok. we are way under with out stuff but over with people. Last season I basically just told people to stay out of the camper until it was time to go to sleep.CCC when parkedIs it ok to be over your CCC when parked? Like say if you had some extra people over and they were all in your camper at once or if you had a couple extra people sleeping in the camper.Re: Another Towing Post JIMNLIN wrote: Looks like a good match. Enjoy thanks. I think the numbers will be fine. It may make me want to upgrade in the future for better performance. It seems like every person out there is talking about going down mountains and 8% grades and such and I'm like "ill be towing in central Indiana". LOLRe: Another Towing PostI want to thank everybody for all their input on this. I have only been towing for a couple of years so I appreciate all the experienced answers. I am going to summarize all the data points. I live in Indiana. I will not be traveling out of the tri-state area. So no mountains. we mostly stay at State Parks in Indiana. We camp 8-10 times a year. The family usually drives a second vehicle. I drive my 1/2 ton as a daily driver. Don't really want to drive 3/4 ton as daily(not that I don't love them. grew up with my dads 76 f-250 highboy). Will get 3/4 ton if need be or a better equipped F-150. Truck: 13 f150 5.0L 4x4 Screw Rear GAWR-3850 GVWR-7350 CGWR-13500 axle ratio 3.55 Payload per sticker-1586 Truck curb weight at scale-6080 Driver weight-230 max tow by running the numbers ~7200 New TT im looking at. passport 2920bh length-32.83ft dry weight-5385 GVWR-7200 hitch dry-625Re: Another Towing Post JIMNLIN wrote: sorry should have given that info to you guys. 2013 F-150. 5.0 engine. 4X4 3.55 axle ratio. GCWR 13500. I'm not sure how everyone gets so much extra weight in their campers. I weighed everything I put into my current camper(food, tools, blankets, etc) and it only totaled and extra 280 lbs or so. Still need the trucks most important GVWR and RAWR numbers. However Ford F150 can have a 3850/4050/4800 rawr. These numbers will determine how much load can be placed in the trucks bed. Run some numbers at ya' shows your trucks rear axle may weigh in the 2400 (approx) range subtract from 3850 rawr leaves approx 1450 lbs payload in the bed. Or the next 4050 rawr may have approx 1650 lb payload in the bed. And if your truck has the 4800 rawr its good for approx 2400 lb load in the bed. Actual scaled separate axle weights works best. Fleet Ford tow specs for the '13 5.0 engine 3.55 axle range from 7550 on up to 9800 lbs depending on the trucks GVWR numbers. This tells us you won't have any problems pulling that much weight. You sure won't have any problems pulling the size trailer your looking at. The GAWR is 3850 lbs. The GVWR is 7350 lbs.
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