All ActivityMost RecentMost LikesSolutionsRe: class A safetythank you again,Re: class A safetygood morning all i sincerely do appreciate all the comments, what i dont understand is the following and im being totally open minded about it in reference to the ford f53 chassis handling issues some have experienced 1 - why does it happen on many class a motorhomes and not on others 2- why is when just the ADDITION of a rear track bar end all handling issues that were once there as i have experienced and countless others?and with no other change being made what so ever , and driving at the same speed , and higher and on the same exact roadways and in the same type of weather conditions and with no change to tire pressure and or alignment ?? this is my question , some have stated that its the fault of winnebago , how , they made the coach , not the chassis , the added rear track bar is added to the chassis , at least as of this week it is , somebody had stated that why didnt Winnebago moved the obd 2 connection port as recommended by ford , well to be honest , its not a big deal to me, and its surely not a safety issue , more of a convivence issue , as a bmw tech , i have done more in my day than most, replacing complete body harneses in a 7 series , rebuilding and setting up suspensions after a crash , and never had an issue, my problem is i do think out of the box, and at times , things must be questioned, at least when it comes to safety, yours and mine thank you againRe: class A safetywell thank you sandia man , im being very open minded here, i have spoken to many people whom are friends and on facebook , they all pretty much experinced the same issue as i , they made the addition of a rear track bar , and it was another vehicle and having alot less stress,it was like driving in a tornado before the rear track bar installation afterwards, smooth as silk , i have heard this from many rv owners , not just on winnebagos , due to ford makes a cookie cutter chassis , one size fits all , they build them as cheaply as possible , and the motorhome coach builder wont add it on since they are NOT building the chassis, just the motorhome , to me its a safety issue , no less , and im headstrong about this , funny how sao many people have experienced the same issue, and some have not ,Re: class A safetywell thank you for your reply BUT i would and will honestly say, its not the driver , before the addition of a rear track bar and front steering dampener, the drive was a white knuckler to say the least , couldnt drive it faster than 50 mph , it was like driving in a wind tunnnel , after the additions of stated parts , on the same highway , same type of day , no crosswinds, we were able to bring it up to 70 mph, and the windtunnel affect was gone and so was the white knuckles , im not a kid , nor is my fiancée , im used to driving high peformance bmws for which i worked at a bmw dealership for 20 years , from me speaking to many of the people whom i know, this is pretty much a common issue with the f53 chassis , some of stated here that Winnebago , the builder of our coach should have added the rear track bar , many say heck no, its a common issue on MANY CLASS A MOTORHOMES with the f53 chassis , no matter who made it , i have pointed this out seeking what can be done , not to point fingers, but how some blame winnebago when it affects many class A coaches , nit just winnebgao , to me its a ford issue, doing what they do best, put as little as they can in and let it flyRe: class A safetybut , when it comes to safety , and my own, ill nit pickRe: class A safetygood morning and thank you for your honest reply back but , winnebago did not manufacture the chassis , FORD DID , and the issue that occured as in past tense , happens on many f53 chassis coaches , so are they responsible for what ford has not done, ??? i d say NO, im not talking about alignment , balance , ,its handling of the coach over speeds of 50 mph, before the rear track bar was installed , it was like driving in a tornado, after the rear track bar was installed, smooth as silk, i have heard this from many motorhome owners, this one simple addition corrected a serious issue, nothing else was done to my coach , and it corrected it, this kinda tells me it was lacking it from the get go maybe motorhome builders should be requesting that ford add it on , at least for safetys sake in my time, i raced raceboats on the water at speeds aroung 100 mph, driven cars on autobahn in germany and many a bmw at high speeds, but when it comes to safety and handling , there is no substitute for it , period maybe some think im nit picking, just stating that mabe should is missing , as stated and i will say for made the chassis, the reat track bar is connected to the chassis , not to the coach , , how come motorhomes have this problem and others dont i dont get it all i know is what i felt and experienced have a great and safe travelsRe: class A safetythank you for your adult reply , it is very much appreciated , i research to learn not trash , i dont plan on getting rid of my motorhome, i question many things and recieved many replies, i questioned the actions of my motorhome and was told , a rear track bar will surely help, at least 95% , and it did, but if i did not question it in the first place, id still be having the issue, when we dont question , and leave things be , we gain nothingRe: class A safetyto be honest here as i critically am , why does the issue that many motorhomes experience across the board , no matter who made the coach , i have spoken to people where the alighnment was dead on perfect, nothing worn, missing , mis adjusted , and the one thing that did actually repair the issue was a rear tack bar.and its pretty much the same issue , driving over speeds of 50 mph, the coach drives like your in a tornado and its all over the road , after the addition of a rear track bar, its perfect ,no change was made to alignment settings , tire pressures, tire change , weight Distibution , this is my point, you people are i do believe not hearing me or im not explaining it , im sorry i even made a question and stated i have 20 years bmw experience, i was ase certified in bmw. bme e/v and bmw m performance , not bragging , just stating that im not green nor an idiot as some may believe, or think,Re: class A safetyyou guys dont get it , to me its a common issue with the f53 chassis, im sorry i even said anything , with people coming back with sacastic replies , im not a two years old, im college educated and i dealt with bmw enginners in my day , and its funny how many people do actually agree with me, but i wanted a more professional look and i get replies like this, but i do see and know that there are numerous amounts of people who will never condemn the ford product no matter how bad it isRe: class A safety Nv Guy wrote: Blaming Ford is the same as blaming the lumberyard because your house isn't properly built. As been said, get the rig weighed, and aligned by a competent alignment shop. i get what your saying BUT ford built the chassis with out adding anything to prevent the issue the f53s are having, how many times i have read that a rear track bar had to be added to correct the issue , and on many coaches , not just mine or a few , ford does as little as possible , i stated that im a retired bmw tech not bragging but i do know cars , when a vehicle is fine up to a certain speed and anything over it it becomes a wild stallion, and its not a drive train issue, a vibration and or tire issue, nor an alignment issue , after the addition of the rear track bar, its smooth as silk ,why is that ,,,,,,,, and the coach has low miles, what i dont get is basically every motorhome has the same configuration size wise , how som coaches dont et it and some get it bad is beyond me i personally think that the person who owned my motorhome before we did , experienced the issue , and opted to get a 5th wheel , for it was hardly used in the time they had it