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Re: help with weight
wedge542 wrote: OK, loaded same dually plus a acura- dually weighs 6860-acura weighs 3120 went to cat scales=steer 4160- drive 5220-trailer axels 13500-gross 22880 hows this looking my steers under the max 4850 drives under the max 6100 im under gvwr of 9600 and trailer max tow limit im under max of 16100, am i overlooking anything? this was a 9980 lb load on the trailer Looks like you are under all the ratings. Should be good to go!!509Views0likes0CommentsRe: help with weight
wedge542 wrote: MR TAYLOR, if this rolled across your scales would it be legal AND looking at those numbers how much would i have left to max it out, say i had that dually loaded and 3000 more in front of that? Being over your ratings is not the same as being overweight. Don't forget to tag the truck for the correct gross weight as well.510Views0likes0CommentsRe: help with weight
wedge542 wrote: MR TAYLOR, if this rolled across your scales would it be legal AND looking at those numbers how much would i have left to max it out, say i had that dually loaded and 3000 more in front of that? I figure your total length to be somewhere around 58 feet. According to the chart that I have attached you would get 80,000# total weight and would be able to put 20,000# on the steer axle 20,000# on the pull axle and 42,000# on the trailer axles. You can not exceed any of those weights on the interstate system. You will never be overweight because there is no way that you could load your combo with that much weight and not have something fail. So.... you don't have a weight issue that I can see. If you added 3 thousand pounds more to the front of the trailer you may then run into a problem being over the trucks GVWR. I say may because you will really not know until you load it that way and have it weighed. http://ops.fhwa.dot.gov/freight/publications/brdg_frm_wghts/bridge_formula_all.pdf510Views0likes0CommentsRe: help with weight
wedge542 wrote: got scaled this morn with a 91 f350 dw on the trailer and my slider 5th wheel all the way foward steer 4200/ drive 4360/ trailer axels 11200/ gross 19760- i cant see how this dually only weighs 6860lbs, its lighter than my f250 yet has a 10000 gvwr and 7100 gawr, thats 1000lbs more rear cap than my f250, i had the dually at rear across the tri axels, the slider did help throw some weight to the steer more than just sit on the rear axel, added 180 to steer and 40 to the rear axel. Main thing is that you are under all of the truck and trailer ratings. This is what you were hoping to achieve. Correct?509Views0likes0CommentsRe: help with weight
wedge542 wrote: mr taylor, you are correct id be way better off but current situation has me bound with what i have at hand now, not to say im gonna do this regaurdless because if i cant do it legaly im not leaving the house, its not worth it, i bought a slider 5th wheel this evening and it moves the pin foward about 6 inches, i hooked up and made sure turns no problems and i can still leave tailgate open when hooking up, i loaded up a truck and going to the scales in the morning to see whats what on the steer/drives/total and ill post numbers here, already know what my combo weighs empty so then ill know how much this truck weighs i loaded on the trailer, its a dualy loaded with stuff. IF this will not work ill contact ford because the f250 and 350 are same axels brakes springs housings bearings ect. thank you mr taylor No problem glad I could help. Good luck to ya and I hope everything turns out your way !!328Views0likes0CommentsRe: help with weight
wedge542 wrote: bpounds, id be willing to bet your truck dont have a 6000 lb front axel unless you bought a illegal sticker and put it on and trying to tell everybody your legal, i think your full of******myself but we can do this in another posting if you want, right now id rather you went and bugged someone elses post with your chatter. MR taylor, if my truck can be converted to a dualy would it then have a higher max rear load capacity and a bigger than the current 9600 gvwr? Yes and No. The conversion would allow to carry more weight on the rear axle thus allowing the truck to carry more weight as a whole. However..... The the door jamb sticker is what sets the ratings. Without an upgraded door jamb sticker the dually conversion would be worthless. You could check with a ford dealership to see if you could obtain a sticker with higher ratings. I'm not familiar with the dually conversions so I don't know if ford would approve such a modification for the purpose of increasing the weight ratings. I have never heard of anyone being successful in having the GVWR increased but there have been plenty that have been decreased. Just a thought as I do not know your situation. After you take in the fact of buying a conversion and paying some money to have that done Etc. You may be better off ditching the truck you have now and finding one with all these things from the factory.329Views0likes0CommentsRe: help with weight
wedge542 wrote: Thank you mr Taylor, ive been in the trucking industry 39 yrs but in a dif capacity that did not allow me such detail as to actual weight laws, i do understand the big truck laws but when something like this arises im lost and ive tried on a few truck sites only to get ridaculed and told truckstop tales, im truly trying to ONLY be legal and safe for anyone around me. I dont want to seem stupid but its very confusing and im trying to learn, this is a flatbed trailer that has a 34ft long floor with a 8ft gooseneck, single tire tri axel, tires on trailer rated at g all 6 brand new, new truck tires rated at e so im sure im ok here, BUT if i understand right my steer axel can max out at the door sticker rating that says 4850 when loaded so if i put my trailer on and load it the max i can have anytime is 4850 on the steer axel and the sticker says max rear at 6100 so same there?? once those two numbers are maxed out id need to shift the load on the trailer to keep those two numbers in ck? AGAIN sir thank you for your time and caring enough to give help. You could possibly shift the load on the trailer to come in under the axle ratings but I doubt you will get under the GVWR. As you can tell the GVWR is less than the total of the front and rear axle rating combined.327Views0likes0CommentsRe: help with weight
bpounds wrote: I'm certainly no expert on commercial hauling, and I will defer to the experts that post on the topic. However... Firstly I find it odd that your front axle is only rated for 4,850. Seems really low. My '06 F250 is 6,000 front, 6,100 rear. I have options on the truck that raise it, but that seems like a lot of variation. Doesn't really matter in your case though, because you will find it impossible to transfer much pin load to the front axle. I don't believe you can simply register for a weight higher than your door sticker and suddenly become legal. Those manufacturers labels are going to be what matters to an enforcer. I know in some states you can register for whatever weight you want on a pickup, but the intent is to manipulate registration weight fees. It doesn't give commercial haulers permission to overload a manufacturers axle rating. Bottom line is you don't have enough truck to do what you need/want to do. As I said, my non-expert opinion. Not really odd as I have a 2012 Dodge 2500 with a front axle rating of 5000#. There are higher and lower ratings for my same model. depends if its 4wd vs. 2wd , camper package etc.328Views0likes0CommentsRe: help with weight
Any time you exceed a listed gross axle / gross vehicle weight rating you put yourself in a " Unsafe Operation " and will be subject to fine and placed out of service if a Federal Motor Carrier inspection is performed on you. As far as legal weight that can be carried by your truck and trailer depends on some different factors. Namely, length and axle spacing. In Alabama, weights differ between interstate and secondary roads. Alabama allows 10% more weight on secondary roads. If you do a Google search for federal highway weight limits you should be able to find the chart that breaks down the weights according to length and axle spacing for interstate highways. That weight will apply on any Federal Interstate in the country. By looking at the chart, one would assume a 5 axle combination 16 ft long gets 58,000# total gross weight with 20,000# per single axle and 34,000# for tandem axles. I do believe in your case, you have a triaxle trailer which should get 42,000#. The longer the combo the more weight you get. So, it looks like as long as you do not exceed any of those numbers you would be good on weight but........... If you get inspected and exceed any of the manufactures ratings then that would put you in a unsafe operation and you could be fined and placed out of service. If you load your combo up to the numbers above YOU WILL BE IN A UNSAFE OPERATION !!!!!192Views0likes0CommentsRe: Other fees when buying 5th wheel
M.R.E. wrote: Besides sales tax and license plate, dealer wants $200 doc fee, $800 destination fee, and $900 prep fee. Does everyone pay this ? To me these fees are absurd. I will not be financing. I would shoot for 30-35% off MSRP plus tax no other fee163Views0likes0Comments
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