All ActivityMost RecentMost LikesSolutionsRe: Tow rating comparison; 5th wheel vs bumperI'm pretty well set on a crew cab long box. I'm used to driving a standard shift and prefer it for towing and my wife can drive a standard as well but we will probably end up with an auto transmission because there are just more of them around. We prefer cloth seats because leather gets so hot in the sun but we also want things like cruise control and most of the optioned trucks have leather seats so we may have to go with seat covers.Re: Tow rating comparison; 5th wheel vs bumperI'm not going to bother looking at 3/4 ton units. The decision will be whether to go with SRW or DRW in a one ton. Thanks again!Re: Tow rating comparison; 5th wheel vs bumperThanks for the information. As I've noted before I will probably need to replace my pickup before I'm ready to replace my trailer. It looks as though a 3/4 ton would be barely enough but a 1 ton SRW would do with a DRW plenty big enough. There seems to be more SRW available and my wife is a bit intimidated by the DRW. Thanks very much to everyone who has offered information and guidance.Re: Tow rating comparison; 5th wheel vs bumperI see that 5'ers in the 32'-34' range have a gross weight of about 15,000 lbs which, using the 20% rule would mean about 3,000 lbs on the pin. I now have the gross rear axle ratings but I don't have the net. What would the empty rear axle weight be, roughly, of a crew cab, long box pickup? Thanks!Re: Tow rating comparison; 5th wheel vs bumper NC Hauler wrote: Your 35 years in the trucking business, that puts you well ahead of me in the knowledge department, I've been towing longer than that, but you're far more familiar with all the "weight questions", than I though you might be. I didn't know you had been in the trucking business, just "assumed" you might not know that particular bit of information...I apologize if I offended you... Good luck with your combo... I don't take offense from any advice I receive and appreciate you taking the time to inform me.Re: Tow rating comparison; 5th wheel vs bumper NC Hauler wrote: AlbertaNewbie wrote: be careful with the drw srw myth that drw is better. a lot of the srw 1 tons have higher gvwr, payload and are cheaper. Don't know about "myth"...Don't recollect anyone stating that a 1 ton SRW truck is BETTER than a Dually... Each has it's application, most dealing with PAYLOAD....Oh, and your conclusion about higher GVWR and payload doesn't float with the Ram 3500 SRW truck and 3500 DRW truck, big difference. RAWR for the SRW truck is 7,000#...for the DRW truck it's 9750#...big difference. GVWR on my dually is 14,000#, the SRW isn't close to that. To the op...If looking at 3/4 ton, depending on the weight of your 5er, I would look at a 3500/350 SRW truck, for no more price difference and more payload, that would be the truck I'd look at and then you use that trucks specs to buy a 5er with. Do yourself a favor when matching the 5er with the truck...Use REAL WORLD GVW of the 5er, not the "dry" or "empty" weight...no one tows a 5er "dry" or "empty".....Take 20% of the 5er's GVW and that will give you a really good "ball park" idea of how much "pin weight" you'll be putting in the bed of your truck, (ie, payload)... Thank you. After 35 years in the trucking business I am absolutely looking at gross weights and not dry weights. I also don't want to come in 'just under the wire'. I remember back in my early driving days jumping into a tractor powered by a big CAT engine and I was able to drive over almost any grade without having to gear down. The truck had way more power than 'needed' but was a pleasure to drive and didn't burn more fuel because it wasn't working hard. I'm inclined to go with a dually set up while my wife would prefer a SRW truck if possible. Another consideration is parking when we're bobtailing. A dually pretty well needs it own space away from the regular grocery shoppers but since we'll be getting a crew cab with a long bed we will be too long for regular parking spaces anyway. Our current regular cab long box 1500 barely fits in a regular parking spot anyway. I am a data guy and want to make sure the numbers work before I lay down our savings.Re: Tow rating comparison; 5th wheel vs bumper SoCalDesertRider wrote: The dually 1-ton version of the same make, model and year srw 1-ton has typically 1500-2000 lbs more payload capacity than the single, going by GVWR, and typically 2000-3000 lbs more rear axle load capcity than the single, going by RGAWR. Thank you!Re: Tow rating comparison; 5th wheel vs bumperHaving driven tractor trailer rigs, both as a city shunter and a highway driver I'm not at all intimidated by the dually and will be the primary driver. I'm older than my wife and she is concerned that if I'm not feeling well and she has to drive it … IT'S BIG… :-) We have agreed that she will do some of the driving to improve her comfort level and since we do a lot of boondocking the TV will be the vehicle used to run to town when we're fulltiming. I understand that a dually is probably the best vehicle but I'm pondering if I can get away with a SRW. I assume the dually will be a more stable TV. We also carry a small, old scooter on a rack on the back of our trailer and she'll have to get used to driving it too… LOL. Thank you for the information and advice.Re: Tow rating comparison; 5th wheel vs bumperThanks JIMNLIN, We have pretty well decided on a crew cab, long box. We are looking towards a 5th wheel in the 32'-34' range with probably 2 slides. That's starting to look like 1 ton, DRW territory. Right?Re: Tow rating comparison; 5th wheel vs bumperIs there a resource that lists the various year, make, model of trucks with their net, gross and axle weights? We will not be buying new and I would love to be able to check the specs on a truck listed for sale to see if it fits my needs. Not all ads list the vehicle specs. Thanks.
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