All ActivityMost RecentMost LikesSolutionsRe: China bombs still bombs if way under limits? BubbaChris wrote: Back to the OP's original concern - Chances are if your OEM tires are OK for the first trip, they're worth keeping for a few years. One of the unknown factors is how your TH was pulled to where you bought it. There have been threads on this board where people have seen the haulers doing in excess of 75MPH with their load behind. Most of the smart haulers will stick to 60-65MPH because that's the sweet spot for their fuel mileage. But you just can't know what your specific unit went through. That may be more of a risk than what country the tires were made in. When I was brand new to RVs last year I asked my mobile tech about replacing my 18-month old (I bought a pre-owned TT) Towmax tires. His reply was that if they haven't had a problem yet, you're likely to get the appropriate number of years out of them. Thanks for the reply! I have a nice 6 hour round trip tow this weekend up through the mountains of NC and TN. I'll see how it goes and take a close look at my tires at gas stops. I was hoping I could squeak by a while with the OEM's since we paid cash for the new TH! Funds are a bit tight for a few months.Re: China bombs still bombs if way under limits? 4X4Dodger wrote: There is no such thing as a "China Bomb". This is a fallacy put forth by those that do not understand the global manufacturing market, have never been to a high tech manufacturing plant in China (as I have),dont realize some of the best brands in the world are Mfg in China to exacting standards and continue to spread misinformation about China and it's people. Maybe just because they are Chinese? The Chinese are the highest paid and best educated and most literate of all of Asia's workforces except the for the Japanese. My feeling is that those that continue to pound this drum have ulterior motives based in Cultural, Racial and political differences, NOT the quality of the manufacturing. I bet if you did a poll on how many cheap OEM tires blew up vs. better tires you'd be surprised. It just so happens that near 100% of those are made in China. The name didnt invent itself. How about the massive recall that Westlake had a few years back which was a main worry of mine? Sure domestic tires have the same recalls but most seem much happier with better made tires vs. a generic. I bet a lot of the OEM brand tires are made side by side in the same place. I am sure many tires could have been or were abused and they would have blown up period but there are just as many that followed the rules to the letter and they still failed. 99% of sunglasses are all made by Luxotica based in Italy from $300 Oakley's to no-names. Doesnt mean the no-names are as well made as the high dollar stuff even taking away the marketing and hype built into them. Do the Chinese make great stuff? Sure, 99% of the electronics we buy are from China from Apple to my cheap alarm clock. BTW - I am Asian and proud of it so I have no bone to pick with them. If there is a tire made in China that gets fantastic reviews I'll buy it. All I know is when tires like the Goodyear Marathon went from Akron, OH to China people started having issues.Re: China bombs still bombs if way under limits?Guess I will give these a shot for a few trips. I have two long tows next year at about 1200-1400 miles each so am more worried about those. My first failure I had no TPMS and never knew I blew a tire until somebody flagged me down on the highway. I never felt it or saw it in my mirrors. Second failure I had TPMS and all it told me was my tire blew up! That one wasnt a leak, it just happened and happened quick. Went from 67psi (was higher from driving) to 0psi with a warning beeping away. That was with 1-1/2 yr old Maxxis tires. First blowout was a Towmax in 14"Re: Three kids, 2 dogs, TT, choices.3 small boys and 2 large dogs for us. Had the same problem as you, out of room! We actually had everybody in my Tundra Crewmax but it was very snug, too snug. We traded it in on our Nissan NVP 3500 and love it so far after 2 long camping trips. It's rated for 8900# towing and seats up to 12. We pulled the 4th row out for space and the dogs have plenty of room along with the kids.China bombs still bombs if way under limits?So we have a new Toy Hauler and since it's a TH it has somewhat beefy China trailer tires on it, in this case Westlake D range in 15" TH weight is 6600 on the yellow sticker. We added a battery and there's now 2 20# propane bottles up front. We didn't fit all our old gear into the new camper since the TH is actually smaller than our old bunk house. We added 900# with the old setup so I'd guess maybe 750-800 was added to the new. My tires are rated for the full 10000# max load we "could" have behind us. We won't have anywhere near that, our toys are bicycles and dog stuff! For now at least. So figuring we have maybe 7500 to 8000 at very most on tires rated at 10000 will that help in keeping them intact? Keeping speeds at 65 max of course and inflated properly. I've had 2 blow outs in the past even with Maxxis tires but they were maxed out for weight load on the old camper. I upgraded to larger tires and never had an issue. I just don't want any surprises now but also don't want to spend a ton on new tires if I can use these Westlake's for a while.Re: TT/TH recommendation for fam of 5 with two big dogsUpdate - seriously looking at the Forest River Hyper Lite 27HFS. 30', single slide 6404# on the yellow door sticker We would add in the walk through dinette/bed in the back along with the stock electric bed. I am thinking with propane, battery and extra be we'll be around 6650# as it rolls off the lot. I really think this falls within my NV's specs. My one worry was the empty tongue weight but we'll add the bed plus all our "toys" will be in the garage so that should go down as in all TH. Any thoughts? We can pick it up next week if we want it.Re: TT/TH recommendation for fam of 5 with two big dogsatwowheelguy - you would be correct. It is classified as a 1 Ton van so I had to think that some TH could work. It has a 9900 Gross weight rating as well.Re: TT/TH recommendation for fam of 5 with two big dogsSo my other thread got locked - is this strictly 5'er Toy Haulers? If so please move! I wanted options on bumper pull TH's if any were out there that would work. I have a van! (Mod stated other thread was locked due to this being in the 5'er TH forum)Re: TT/TH recommendation for fam of 5 with two big dogsBig truck isnt an option, just bought the NV and we need interior room with the kids and dogs. We did look at the Chevy Express and Ford E series Diesel's before the NVP but both rode and drove like barges. I have driven 1T trucks briefly and ridden in plenty of newer ones and they are great, just work for the family. There is no way we'd consider taking two vehicles for all the trips either even though we do see that often enough. If we cant do it, we cant do it but wanted to ask.TT/TH recommendation for fam of 5 with two big dogsPosted this in family as well but we are really looking at TH's and are new at looking at them so wanted to post here. Mods please delete if this is against forum rules. Hello all, we may be in the market for a new trailer and wanted to ask around before making the plunge. There are so many options out there it is crazy. I want to give as much info as possible to help everyone out... Current TT - Forest River Surveyor SP295 - 32', triple bunks, outside kitchen, small slide. Very light - 6600# loaded across a CAT. Current TV - 2015 Nissan NVP 3500 SL - V8. Tow rated at 9600#, need to check Gross weights, we did remove a lot of weight in seats to gain more room. Family to camp - Me, wife, 3 boys (7, 5, 3) and two 80# dogs We prefer State Parks. Camp around 4-5 times a year. Some are long trips (just got home from a 10 day trip) and some are 10+ hours away. We do everything from the mountains to Disney to the coastal beaches. What we like in current TT - outside kitchen is super nice. Bunk room is nice. Light weight is nice. What we dont like - no room. It is very cramped with the small slide. The light weight also means it is built cheap with thin materials. Bed is cramped for me (6'2") with no space at foot of bed. With the small slide it is hard to set up our one dogs crate every time we go out for a longer period of time. Other possible issues - we are getting into more "toys". We already have 3 bikes and a bike buggy for the two small ones. One already wants us to bring his bike so that will be 4 and I would guess eventually 5 bikes with us. We also like to kayak and have one kids single and two 13' tandems. We're considering something like a Toyhauler TT to carry all boats and bikes but are worried about high tongue weights and interior room. Most that are lighter dont have a slide so are quite narrow. I've never really looked into a TH but we were parked next to a huge Voltage (42', triple axle, 20K lbs!) and they gave us a tour. Loved the garage area with the electric bunks that came down. I could definitely see the kids back there and it would be easy to set up the dog crate and carry the toys. If we do get a TH I could also see us eventually getting a golf cart for some trips but that isnt necessary. Most are setup for big toys like quads, motorcycles, RZR's etc which we dont need, just need room for the bikes and boats right now. We have found wider bunkhouses that give more room inside which we may end up with. We are open to pretty much anything though. If we go with a new BH or something else I would get a large rack for the Nissan to carry what I could up there. Right now all bikes go inside our TT which isnt ideal to say the least. Locally we have a lot of Forest River dealers and two Jayco dealers. I think we have a Keystone dealer now as well. So what say all?
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