All ActivityMost RecentMost LikesSolutionsRe: How to improve 2017 Ford 350 head light output? See Update. drsteve wrote: They say it is legal in a halogen housing. You can't believe everything you read onlineaapexshow.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/NHTSA-Regulations-HID-LED-Kits.pdf.Re: How to improve 2017 Ford 350 head light output? See Update. mich800 wrote: dodge guy wrote: The new LED headlights the OEMs are offering are just as bad for blinding people. I’ve seen it myself. So if you don’t like LED headlights, then you may want to speed to the manuf and thy government for allowing brighter lights! OEM too bright. Except that recall isn't about the "headlights" being too bright per se. It's the fact that the Daytime Running Lights on the truck can be enabled at night with the regular low beam headlights. That's not the low beam headlight being "too bright." That's a programming screw up by Ford. Daytime Running Lights are, as the name implies, for daytime use, and therefore they can be a little too bright for safe nighttime use. Every other car disables use of the DRLs with low beam headlights. Ford didn't.Re: How to improve 2017 Ford 350 head light output? See Update. dodge guy wrote: Like I said. You have to get the proper bulb. I don’t believe there is a proper HID kit for a halogen housing (I should’ve stayed that). But there are proper LED bulbs for halogen and projector housings! The difference is the way the LEDs are positioned on the bulb housing. There are no legal LED kits for halogen headlights. aapexshow.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/NHTSA-Regulations-HID-LED-Kits.pdf Doesn't matter if the seller claims it's "street legal" or whatever. What are they going to say, that it's illegal? Plus, "street legal" isn't a term found in the federal law books. It's actually just a made up term to make you feel good about your purchase. No different from the guy on the corner selling some pills and telling you it's "DEA legal." The only difference is that the DEA takes its mission seriously, while the NHTSA seems to be a little uninterested, likely due to a lack of funding and the fact that headlight bulbs aren't as sexy of an issue as DRUGS. ShinerBock wrote: I don't think some of here know how a halogen housing works. The reason why it is scattered the way it is in a halogen housing is due to the low light output of a halogen bulb therefore it is able to reflect upward without blinding people. If you put a brighter bulb ,such as an HID or LED bulb, then the reflector in the housing that are pointing upward will cause the light to scatter upward blinding oncoming drivers. It has nothing to do with the beam pattern of the bulb because it is the beam pattern of the reflectors in the halogen housing that cause this issue. Hence the reason why it is illegal to put a brighter bulb such as an HID or LED bulb in a halogen housing. This is completely off-base. The reflector and light source work together intimately. A 1 millimeter offset in, say, the position of the filament relative to the reflector can result in a headlamp range loss of 100 feet. This same 1 millimeter offset can result in excessive glare. You don't put HID in a halogen headlamp because a filament looks totally different than a HID arc. For one, headlamp bulb filaments are straight. HID bulbs have arcs. An arc is not a straight line. And this relates to what I said about a mere 1 millimeter difference making a 100 feet difference. You don't put LED in a halogen headlamp…yet…because the chips on a LED bulb don't match the characteristics of a filament. The issue with LED chips is they don't emit light very well off-axis, and they require a lot of cooling to match a halogen bulb’s output and sustain it. Fortunately, these are all solvable problems, and one day we'll have legal LEDs to put in halogen lamps.Re: How to improve 2017 Ford 350 head light output? See Update. mkirsch wrote: With the hundreds of products out there, NONE of which have ANY information on them to inform the buyer of proper installation and/or compatibility... "Just plug 'em in!" ...is it any wonder that there are so many jackasses out there on the road? What products are you talking about?Re: How to improve 2017 Ford 350 head light output? See Update. BenK wrote: Haven't looked into headlamps in a while, so asking if the current headlamps (HID, QH, LED, etc) have the DOT aiming tabs ? Yep, you're right, it's been "a while." Those aiming protrusions have fell out of vogue around the turn of the millenium. They haven't been widely seen for the last 2 decades.Re: How to improve 2017 Ford 350 head light output? See Update. ShinerBock wrote: This is false. A halogen housing scatters the beam differently than an HID or LED housing. You will never get it to aim properly without this scatter hence the reason why it is illegal per federal standards. Reaiming a halogen headlamp that's been molested by someone with a LED bulb kink works about as well as stealing someone else's glasses and adjusting the nosepads to better fit your face.Re: How to improve 2017 Ford 350 head light output? See Update. drsteve wrote: Funny... NHTSA says that DOT tests helmets for compliance with the applicable federal standards. As a lifelong rider, I've noticed that the anti-helmet crowd is not especially concerned with accuracy. In this case, their theory is that there are no DOT approved helmets, and indeed DOT asserts that they are not an approval agency, and therefore they can wear whatever headgear they wish and still be following helmet laws, because there's no such thing as a DOT approved helmet. Whatever... The DOT doesn't go around saying "yay" or "nay" even if you send them a piece of equipment for free with a chocolate bunny and a note asking them to "check" the equipment for compliance with applicable laws. In the case of lighting, DOT compliant means that the lighting meets section 108 requirements of the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (FMVSS). These standards regulate all automotive lighting, signaling, and reflective devices. I wouldn't go as far as saying they regulate "all" automotive lighting devices...fog lamps, for example, are not federally regulated. States are free to decide on whether they even allow fog lamps on their roads, if they wish to go that far. States are also free to regulate the placement, brightness, number, etc. of fog lamps.Re: How to improve 2017 Ford 350 head light output? See Update.What is a DOT approved lamp?? https://www.bikersrights.com/nhtsa/notapproved.htmlRe: How to improve 2017 Ford 350 head light output? See Update. Those Silverstar bulbs are trash. Much better bulbs available for less money.
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