All ActivityMost RecentMost LikesSolutionsRe: No rear overload spring on my new 2012 Ford F250? mbloof wrote: billtex wrote: Just sayin’. Read much? The OP has a F250. I have a F250. I offered to the OP how I carry a much heavier camper on my F250. Off topic much? Since you don't seem to have anything to offer, why are you posting on this thread? Just sayin. - Mark0. What I have to offer is it makes no sense to buy a 3/4 ton and spend thousands of dollars on upgrades when you can buy a one ton for ~ $400 more and have the OE capability. If GVWR is a concern, those upgrades gain you zero. Somebody piss in your fruit loops this morning?Re: No rear overload spring on my new 2012 Ford F250? mbloof wrote: billtex wrote: mbloof wrote: Americamper wrote: I have not loaded the camper yet as I am waiting on torqlift frame mounts which should be here this week. I carry ~4000lbs (camper+gear) on a 2017 F250. (SC, 4x4, 6.7L, Lariat) While the loaded weight was within the stock tires maximum load ratings (3450x2), the sway driving it nearly made me sea sick. Since I had installed Toyo M608z's 265/70 19.5" tires and Vision Heavy hauler 81 rims on the 1997 F250 the new 2017 was replacing, it was a no brainer to put them on the 2017 F250 Ford. This fixed the sway. The rear end sag while loaded ready for camping made my head lights aim higher than on coming traffic liked so I had airbags installed. A mere 20PSI in ether side allows the headlights point where they should. YMMV - Mark0. Or just buy the one ton. Actually, the one ton (if one were available at the time of purchase) would not of bought me much of anything. (if anything at all) While the OEM tires on F350's are rated at 3650 so MAY not have had as much sway from tire flex. (then again, I still likely would of swapped the tires/rims out for the 19.5's that I already owned) I likely would still have installed airbags to level it out AND .... drum roll please... since last time I was on the scales @ ~12000LBS would of been over the one ton's GVWR. so in the end, I replaced a 1997 F250 with a 2017 F250 and very happy with the purchase and results. - Mark0. GVWR meaningless for carrying a TC. You never stated what your loaded rear axle weight is but a one ton could have negated the need for; air bags and 19.5” tires/wheels. Upgrade from 3/4 ton to one ton is ~ $400. Upgrade to those items you mentioned-which doesn’t change your GVWR at all-is thousands of $$$. And if you really are concerned about GVWR, a SRW gasser can get you 12,400 lbs. Just sayin’.Re: How get truck and TC with ample weight capacity BurbMan wrote: Our Lance 811 paperwork says it's 3017 lbs wet, probably closer to 3600 lbs with gear in it. Does have a dinette slide, but also a wet bath. Our SRW Ram is rated at 4300 lbs cargo capacity, so with 3 adults and gear in the truck we would be right at GVWR, if not slightly over. No question a dually would handle it better, but we don't really feel any side-to-side sway now....plus a dually can sometimes limit you on where you can go offroad, plus it's a pain to use a dually as a daily. (say 3x fast LOL) Pay attention to weight ratings on trucks as they vary by box length, cab configuration and engine choice. You def need to hit the scales locked/loaded. You will be surprised. However, you should be able to safely carry a single slide on a one ton SRW. You may need to upgrade your tires. 18” and 20” tires now come in LI 129 (4080#). Everyone should get a real weight on their loaded rig.Re: No rear overload spring on my new 2012 Ford F250? mbloof wrote: Americamper wrote: I have not loaded the camper yet as I am waiting on torqlift frame mounts which should be here this week. I carry ~4000lbs (camper+gear) on a 2017 F250. (SC, 4x4, 6.7L, Lariat) While the loaded weight was within the stock tires maximum load ratings (3450x2), the sway driving it nearly made me sea sick. Since I had installed Toyo M608z's 265/70 19.5" tires and Vision Heavy hauler 81 rims on the 1997 F250 the new 2017 was replacing, it was a no brainer to put them on the 2017 F250 Ford. This fixed the sway. The rear end sag while loaded ready for camping made my head lights aim higher than on coming traffic liked so I had airbags installed. A mere 20PSI in ether side allows the headlights point where they should. YMMV - Mark0. Or just buy the one ton.Re: No rear overload spring on my new 2012 Ford F250? mellow wrote: You can still load it in the bed to get a test fit and check how much drop you get and how your shocks load. What do the shocks have to do with carrying a load?Re: No rear overload spring on my new 2012 Ford F250? hedge wrote: The whole truck weighs 500lbs less is complete nonsense, quit peddling that non-truth. Whatever they saved by going aluminum went back into the drivetrain. I've owned very similar trucks across both eras and they have almost identical payload. Our new aluminum body gas truck is ~ 500 lbs heavier than our previous steel body diesel! It is my understanding the fully boxed frame is the culprit. Sure is nice though...Re: How get truck and TC with ample weight capacityDually will def get you there...except you mentioned off-road/desert camping. Pretty much any gas SRW one ton will also get you there for a non-slide hard side camper as well. And then you can off-road with confidence. With LI 129 tires you should have PLENTY of capacity. Good luck, BillRe: No rear overload spring on my new 2012 Ford F250?That’s why you order the camper pkg...or just get the F350.Re: new Ford 7.3 gas with 3.55 axle ratio, does it work? jimh425 wrote: Just fyi, my 4.30s kill MPG over 65. Yes, 4.30s are pretty high, but still, they have a huge impact even on cruise control. The RPMS are much higher. In case you didn’t notice, I have 6.4 diesel. And six speed tranny?Re: Buying a new TC JimK-NY wrote: billtex wrote: GVWR is pretty much meaningless for carrying a TC. Rear axle rating (tires/wheels) is what you need to pay attention to. I carry a much heavier camper on SRW F350 gasser. I am within my axle rating by several hundreds pounds on stock Michelin tires. ...... Bill The GVWR is certainly not "meaningless". Typically that load rating is based on the load capacity of the tires. The stock tires for the OPs truck are 275/65r/18 with a load capacity of 3415 or a combined axle load of 6830. Replacing tires with a larger size might be the first step for upgrading but manufacturers often use rims that are similarly rated so it might be necessary to upgrade rims and wheels. That leaves the shocks and springs which were not designed for the heavier weight. That leads to another round of upgrades. Fact is the camper is too heavy for the truck the OP bought. You are confusing RAWR with GVWR.
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