All ActivityMost RecentMost LikesSolutionsRe: How will my truck handle these two 5th wheels?I already have the truckRe: How will my truck handle these two 5th wheels?The one I'm looking at now is as follows: UVW: 11980 Dry Hitch Weight: 2165 Dry Axle Weight: 9805 Gross NCC: 4195 Net NCC: 3409Re: How will my truck handle these two 5th wheels? APT wrote: APT wrote: dzirkelb wrote: Hitch Weight 2,185 lbs Dry Hitch Weight* 2,290 Those might put you over GVWR before the 200 pound receiver and whomever will sit in the cab. The Ford web site list max payloads, lowest trim level/equipment and the gas engine. No need to estimate. Ford (and every OEM) is required to provide the payload with a full tank of fuel on every vehicle after 2006. As mentioned, look for a sticker on the driver's door or door jam that looks like this: I have looked at several 2010+ 4wd crew cab diesel 3/4 ton trucks tire and loading stickers. I have seen as low as 1560 pounds. Most Fords and GMs are in the 2250 pound range. My tire sticker says 2084 lbs, and the rear gawr is 6100. i've found a line of 5th wheels which give same benefits, but much lighter, Open Range, they are roughly the same, but max out at 12-13k loaded.Re: 2013 Ford 3/4 ton vs ton GASYa, my ultimate decisions was because of resale, which I think I posted about, not sure. When trading in my old truck to get this one, I got 14k for a 2004 140k mileage diesel, if it were gas, I'd get 1/2 that (I'd guess). And, I vehicle hop a lot, so any vehicle which keeps its value longer is better for me.Re: How will my truck handle these two 5th wheels?That's the info I was looking for guys, thanks. I'll try to get something in the range of 13k gvwr, as I know how that tows with my truck currently. I have never towed anything near the max of the specs so I didnt' know what to expect, besides on the farm when we overload everything all the time (and drive 10 miles at 40 mph), thanks for the feedback.Re: How will my truck handle these two 5th wheels?I did find my current camper specs: Dry: 9915 Dry Hitch: 2100 GVW: 12500 This tows very, very easily. But, is also 3000 lbs lighter than what I'm looking at, so I now see the point of I should be worried. I am definitely concerned now, but I'd still like to know if my truck will be ok or not. As like you guys said, the numbers on the camper specs aren't necessarily realistic, if they were, then I should be fine.Re: How will my truck handle these two 5th wheels?Ford towing guide puts me at 15,900 max loaded trailer: http://www.ford.com/trucks/superduty/specifications/towing/ I have the F250 diesel srw 4x4 crew cab http://www.ford.com/trucks/superduty/specifications/payload/ puts my payload at over 3k on all options. I'm not sure which option is mine though, it's either 3150 or 3250 max payload Here are the specs for Heartland camper: Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR) 15,500 lbs Dry Weight 12,745 lbs Hitch Weight 2,185 lbs Carrying Capacity 2,755 lbs and her is the KZ camper: UVW (Unloaded Vehicle Weight)* 12,920 Dry Hitch Weight* 2,290 Dry Axle Weight* 10,630 NCC (Net Carrying Capacity) 2,580 GVWR 15,500 So what I'm really wondering is what is the GVWR actually entail on their specs? Estimated packed weight? Meaning, for the KZ for example, it is dry at 12,920, but I can load it up to 15,500, but nothing more than that, making 15,500 the actual max the camper would ever be? If that is the case, then I think I'm fine, maybe pushing the top end, but for 99% of my camping, it is all within 1 hour of driving.How will my truck handle these two 5th wheels?2014 F 250 Diesel, crew cab. I'm looking at the following 5th wheels: http://kz-rv.com/stoneridge/39BH.html http://www.heartlandrvs.com/index.php?p=35&c=fifthwheels&sc=SV&i=SV+38QBS&view=floorplans&fcmd=showfplan#showgallery Both have the dry weight well within my trucks' limits, but the GVWR on both are 15,500, and the truck is listed at 15k. Anything I should be concerned with? Will my truck pull these ok, or not at all? I do plan to camp in the mountains on occasion, like every other year or so, and plan on going on some long tripsRe: 2013 Ford 3/4 ton vs ton GASQuick update. I'm very, very happy with my decision. The towing with the Ford F250 is just nuts, and not only the towing, but the breaking is what really surprised me. The diesel is awesome in the winter, I don't even plug it in anymore.Re: 2013 Ford 3/4 ton vs ton GAS goducks10 wrote: bobbyg123 wrote: I know the diesel fans mean well for the most part, but what's always bothered me about these debates is that often times, nobody bothers to ask * how often they'll be towing * how far they'll be towing * if (and/or how) they plan to use their truck as a daily driver My next truck is going to be a HD Gas engine. Why? Because I'll use it 85% of the time when I'm NOT TOWING, and when I do tow, it'll be weekend warrior trips with my family. I can get a brand new HD 1-ton Gasser very well equipped for under $40K. It'll get 15MPG empty, tow virtually anything I want it to, and cost me $10-$15K less than a comparable diesel engine. Sorry for the rant, but for some of us, the right tow vehicle involves more than raw pulling power. Good points. I own a diesel and love it. However if I wasn't retired and didn't tow 9000lbs all over Oregon and NorCal I couldn't afford to own a diesel. I certainly couldn't afford to drive one to and from work. Everyone's situation is different and a lot of guys on here fail to explain their circumstances. What works for one won't work for another. I have the same situation as you, I tow not often, and drive the truck daily. When I tow, I tow about 12000 lbs 5th wheel. I ended up debating for weeks, but decided on the diesel, and the reason was because of resale. You don't get your money back while owning it (for our situation), but you do when selling it. I sold my 04 diesel for 15k, gas equivilent was going for 8-10. So, I get teh added benefits of diesel (towing is just insane with it) and gas mileage (although not a whole lot for commuting, I get 20 on highway, but avg 15-16 overall, and it actually is a negative due to price of diesel now). So, just food for thought. I tow about 10-15 times a year, for trips of 10 minutes to 4 hours, with the anticipation of going in the mountains once a year.
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