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Re: Can't fly out while you have a vehicle in Mexico?? True?
Hi Moisheh thank you for the feedback we are super newbs at this sort of thing, having only ridden in MX for the first time in spring of 2015 as a 50th birthday gift for myself (down the Baja then over to the mainland and back to Canada). We spent about 22 days in MX. We are looking for a way (if there is one) of leaving our bikes stored in MX, then flying home, then coming back, riding for a couple more weeks, flying home, and repeating. The initial plan was to get to the GT border as fast as possible and then ride around GT and store the bikes at a buddies hostel. But it turns out that GT's TVIP lasts only 90 days (you can get a 90 day extension but you have to go in person to GT City to do it), so we decided to spend more time in MX, especially after I found out the number of amazing roads there are in MX via looking at Google Maps and comparing the roads to my small scale Roji map book. As such we now want to spend the next ~4-5 trips riding all the great roads in MX, then check out BZ and then go into GT. So our first leg was from Prince George to Puerto Vallarta. I found storage by posting a question on the ADV Rider web forum. A fellow who rents motorcycles and does ride trip in PV wrote back saying he had a friend from Seattle who retired in PV and he had a garage where he could store out 3 bikes for the ~6 months for $100US/month. Finding storage for the next leg of the trip has been more difficult as I've not been able to find any fellow riders or expats living in Tapachula where we were thinking of storing the bikes. Luckily a fellow on ADV Rider from GT saw my post and had a British riding buddy who stored his bike in Comitan. So we located the fellow and he's offered to store our bikes for the the next leg of the trip. Our riding buddy has stored his bike at the Harley shop in Cabo San Lucas before as well.691Views0likes0CommentsRe: Can't fly out while you have a vehicle in Mexico?? True?
Talleyho69 wrote: Unless you plan on spending a lot of time in Mexico, why would you want either one? Hi there, not sure if you saw my lengthy post above explaining our situation, but one of the folks on the board who read it suggested we look at getting a Temporary Residency card so we could leave our motorcycle in storage in MX and fly back and forth to Canada instead of being on the 180 day TVIP clock. Too bad MX does not consider motorcycles as RV's then we could get 10 year permits! We want to stay riding in MX for a number of years at ~2 week intervals at a time but won't be coming back within the 180 day period of the TVIP permit each time (probably only 1x/year), so it was suggested that getting a TR permit might have been an option to do this. I did a google search for info on how to get a MX TR permit as a Canadian but the info I read seems to suggest the application process required us to apply in MX. Can someone suggest a better info web link? I have holdings in Canada worth more that $500K US but I'm not sure if getting a TR would be the solution to our interest in coming back to ride in MX past the 180 TVIP permit timing. Thanks in advance.691Views0likes0CommentsRe: Can't fly out while you have a vehicle in Mexico?? True?
So I checked into the temporary residence option for our situation and hit a road block in that we have to show (via bank statements) we have enough money to support ourselves (ie: $1500/month US or $25 000 in the bank). Since we are not retired/well off yet we can't show either one of those. Plus we have limited time in Mexico per trip (as we have to get back to work) so spending time at the MX consulate is not our first choice or an option. Looks like we'll be rolling the dice when we return in March for another 2 weeks of riding. Hopefully we can cancel our TVIP, store the bikes again and be able to fly home.691Views0likes0CommentsRe: Can't fly out while you have a vehicle in Mexico?? True?
Hi folks just came across this useful forum/message trail from Tony Lee. Looks like we will need your help as we were not aware of what we were doing was a problem (ie: leaving our motorcycles behind in MX), but now that I'm researching to go back before our TVIP expires I'm learning that we are in trouble! So I went to one of the web links in this message string and found this info: "Leaving Mexico without your Vehicle Registered when you have an FMM: (Hint: Don’t) If you entered Mexico with a valid Resident Temporal, then there are no issues with you traveling out of Mexico without the vehicle. If, however, you enter Mexico on an FMM, and get a TIP for your car, then you must only leave Mexico with the vehicle – driving out. The vehicle’s permit sticker has control numbers associated with your FMM, and when you leave the country (e.g. by flying), then when you depart Mexico, they take/cancel your old FMM. When you re-enter Mexico, they issue a new FMM, and the number on the new FMM will not correspond to the control number on your car’s sticker, which will potentially cause big problems when you attempt to leave Mexico with the vehicle." So now I'm wondering what we do now given we've already flown home at the end of our trip in October and now have flights booked to return March 04th/17 (so we will get a new FMM on the plane) with the idea of riding south to Tapachula, cancelling the TVIP, putting the bikes back in storage and then returning in ~8 months to either ride more of MX or enter into GT for two weeks? We had a bit of an experience with the FMM when we left in October in that we had surrendered out FMM when we checked in at the airport, no problem. But then when we were getting ready to board the plane they stopped us and said we had to pay our FMM fee as our FMM said we entered by land and were flying home. We had to go back to the airline check in desk and show them our FMM receipt and then we were good to go. Not a big deal (even if we had to pay for another FMM), but it may be an indication that MX is tightening up on things. We need to get this figured out before March! Our TVIPs expire April 05 but this may be a mute point if we'll be in cuckah because our FMM number won't match what is linked to our TVIP! Also, will we need to cancel the FMM at the same time we cancel the TVIP? I hope not as we'll need to surrender the FMM when we go to board the plane home..... :? If we are lucky enough to cancel the TVIP without the change in FMM number, how do we find out about storing the bikes in Gov't bonded storage until we return (keep in mind we don't speak Spanish)? Hi folks another edit: I read this thread a bit more and was wondering if a Temporary Residence Card would allow us to ride in MX for the next 4 years and not have to worry about going back and forth and the 180 day TVIP time limit....? Suggestions....?362Views0likes0Comments
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