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Re: Revived Trailer Tire Thread (formerly on the 5th Wheel Forum
Francesca Knowles wrote: FastEagle wrote: p.s. I went to a local RV show yesterday. It was a disappointing experience when checking some of the RV trailer specs and then looking at the OE tires. I found that a large dual axle fiver with 6750# (GAWR) axles listed on the certification label was fitted with ST235/80R16E tires rated at 3420# @ 80 psi. That particular trailer had a basement so large it looked like a Smart Car would fit in it. Travel trailer tire fitment wasn’t much better. I found Certified GAWR 4000# axles fitted with ST205/75R15D tires rated at 2150# @ 65 psi. Yes. Thanks, FastEagle! Deliberately undersized original equipment (O.E.) tires is a problem almost always completely overlooked in these endless wrangles about tires. People are so quick to blame a tire (especially if Chinese) itself for a "failure". Who stops to consider the LIKELIHOOD that the American Hero that built the RV for them put undersized tires on it to begin with? This is an industry-wide practice, and yet it gets almost no attention. It seems to me that instead of hollering about foreign tires as some like to do, we might be better served by reading the American Made RV industry the Royal Riot Act as regards this glaring O.E. deficiency. As for difficulties attributed to specific tire types/brands/etc.: No matter WHAT a tire is made of, which letters it has stamped on it, or where it was made, it's going to fail "prematurely" if it isn't sized right for the job. Duh! Maybe it would be also wise if the tire companies would protect themselves by putting a 20% safety margin in their weight ratings and then the margin would not have to worried about! If the RV manufacturers would do the same maybe the whole problem would become noise level.291Views0likes0CommentsRe: Revived Trailer Tire Thread (formerly on the 5th Wheel Forum
FastEagle wrote: Cox89XJ wrote: This is a picture of one of my failed chinese tires. That could very well be a tire defect. It could also be the result of misuse/abuse or both. Having it dismounted and inspected by some experienced tire people WILL determine the cause. FastEagle This appears very similar to the Mission tire failure we had on two Mission tires in 2008 with about 10,000 miles on them. Data as follows: 5 Mission Tires removed in November 2008 DOT # DOT 4YB3 CQIC 0306 ST235/80 R16 DOT 4YB3 TC108 036484031 MH0402-07 5 Plies 2 Polyester + 2 Steel + 1 Nylon Sidewall 2 ply polyester Max load 3520 lbs at 80 lbs Took the failed tires to three different tire dealers. All three diagnosed the tires as having tread separation. Fortunately caught both before they blew out causing further damage. TireCo, USA Mission distributor, replaced all 5 tires free of charge. Now have over 10,000 miles on replacements w/o problems so far.301Views0likes0CommentsRe: Revived Trailer Tire Thread (formerly on the 5th Wheel Forum
Tireman9 wrote: Chris wrote: Capriracer, you talked about we consumers banding together to share info on what works! We have been trying to do that here for a good number of years! However tire threads often get closed when posters show up with a stack of documents and start saying "you can not do that"! And some flat do not like the brand/model that works better than any other. That leads to more back and forth that gets threads closed. SAD! In reading your posts over the last week it does not seem to be as black and white as they claim! So keep the info flowing. Thanks - Chris Chris IMO the main reason that there might be sub standard tires on the highway and why there may be some RVs made with undersized tires is that few if any RV owners complain to the proper sources about the quality of our products. I cover the needed actions in my post on why "bad" tires are on the road. BUT given the fact that the RV community accepts quality in the RV industry that is more like what we got from "Detroit" in the 60's we only have ourselves to blane. This is the bottom line. We are getting only what we accept.380Views0likes0Comments
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