Farmerkev
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Re: Help a Newbie, question about gas vs. diesel
Let's really be totally honest here, if you want to get down to penciling money rv's make zero financial sense. You can camp in a tent one heck of a lot cheaper. Even better, skip the camping and get a second job, think of the compound interest and extra million that will make.457Views0likes0CommentsRe: Help a Newbie, question about gas vs. diesel
Hammerboy wrote: Its always funny listening to the arguments of gas vs diesel costs. I paid 6 1/2 years ago an extra $8000 and change for my diesel. Today that truck Bluebooks for $6000 TRADE IN value more than the gas equivalent. So I look at it this way, for 6 1/2 years it cost me $2000 to own that diesel if I were to trade it in today. Fuel costs are a wash as diesel cost more but gets 25-30% better mileage, maintenance is slightly more, nothing to complain about. Barring nothing catastrophic happens its not the huge cost difference some people make it out to be. Dan That's what I was trying to get at, in my area you wouldn't even have the 2 grand loss in the real market. Pay the diesel tax once and then enjoy the benefits of diesel trucks the rest of your life. Everybody is different though and I have nothing against gas trucks, just disagree it's a huge cost every time you trade.386Views0likes0CommentsRe: Help a Newbie, question about gas vs. diesel
blt2ski wrote: Farmerkev wrote: blt2ski wrote: Realistically, one needs to drive 20-30k miles a year to truly pay for a diesel these days in a reasonable time frame, IE 3-5 yrs. I'll disagree with the conventional wisdom a bit here. You don't pay the whole diesel premium every time you trade, it's mostly a 1 time hit. If you stay diesel on every truck you get after the first the payback numbers change quite a bit. Based on my numbers, and most other larger commercial users, one needs to drive 150K miles minimum to pay off ANY diesel vs gas. Used to be 60-80K miles. Most are wanting an ROI in the 3-5 year relm, so my 20-30K min mile useage is about on target. Where I work, we just switched off to gas rigs vs diesel rigs. We're doing 5 year leas turn arounds, with 30-40K miles a year useage. My paying for one personally is out the door. as I am not driving like I used to for business purposes, no depreciation etc. Takes a long time to payoff an $8K difference, even with an increase in trade. If you want one get one, reality, you will never get it paid for per say if you do not drive the wheels off of it! Even a gas one this is true. marty No augment there but commercial is quite a bit different than the civilian pickup market I'm referring too.391Views0likes0CommentsRe: Help a Newbie, question about gas vs. diesel
blt2ski wrote: Realistically, one needs to drive 20-30k miles a year to truly pay for a diesel these days in a reasonable time frame, IE 3-5 yrs. I'll disagree with the conventional wisdom a bit here. You don't pay the whole diesel premium every time you trade, it's mostly a 1 time hit. If you stay diesel on every truck you get after the first the payback numbers change quite a bit.391Views0likes0CommentsRe: Downsizing - How much?
We just did this year what you are doing but for us it was a downsize that is actually an upsize. Went from a 34' no slide motorhome to a 26' box trailer with 2 slides. It's just much better for us. Floorplan is such a personal thing, I thought I wanted a real living room but fell in love with this https://www.rvusa.com/rv-guide/2011-heartland-north-trail-travel-trailer-floorplan-nt-king-26brss-tr4686469Views0likes0CommentsRe: Will it pull my trailer?
DB Cooper wrote: I can't believe anyone is actual concerned with the OPs set up. Unless I missed something - I thought we were talking about a 3800 lb dry weight. Any lighter than that would be a tent trailer. Pretty much never fails. I frankly don't understand why most here just don't get a used semi, it won't care what trailer is behind it. Heck for that matter, put the trailer on a flat deck and don't worry about what tires you got on it.157Views0likes0CommentsRe: Tesla Launch of Pick-Up
ShinerBock wrote: Yosemite Sam1 wrote: ShinerBock wrote: But I thought you said you see solutions? .. Sorry Mr Magoo, lol, no solution will be good enough for those who say it can't be done. You even know why those big companies flunk in their cash for advanced orders buying themselves problems you outlined. What I know because I worked similar multinational companies, I know for sure, they've run their numbers and got their engineers to green-light these investments. I never said it can't be done. I think you are putting your own thoughts and words into mine. I am just injecting actual problems that will be faced by a fleet manager if they own a fleet of 50 or more of these units. As an ex fleet manager myself and someone who has been in the medium/heavy duty industry for over two decades, I can assure you that these are real world problems and hurtles that Tesla will have to overcome and will be much harder to deal with than building a truck, especially the PDC and dealer support. And again, advanced orders do not mean anything in this industry. For one, the amount to pre-order is just a drop in a bucket to these companies. Two, it is refundable so there is essentially no risk. Three, many companies will places pre-orders on multiple OE's at the same time and decide to go with one at the last minute depending one who can get to their order first. It happens all the time so a pre-order in this industry is not anything to base any viability judgments on. As I said in the other thread, it just sounds silly to someone who is in the industry. I see exactly what you're saying but an even bigger issue is you've got 80,000 lbs to work with and a low margin industry. That never bodes well for something that is more costly and less productive. Somebody mentioned super singles, you see more trucks using them because it saves weight allowing more load to be carried. To put it in RV terms, payload.139Views0likes0CommentsRe: Haul Gauge??
mkirsch wrote: The device has access to ALL the sensors in your vehicle as well as every bit of information about your vehicle. Your modern vehicle is recording more than you think, and there are far fewer "variables" than you think. A WD hitch changes the angles so the tongue weight is wrong. Load in bed can be in the front or rear, once again payload wrong. 30 mph tail or headwind changes acceleration and torque so once again, wrong. For that matter just a camper versus a lowboy trailer pull different even weighing the same.277Views0likes0Comments
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