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Re: Diesel vs gas......................
QUOTE Gas engines have the same lifespan of diesel engines????? High maintenance costs on a diesel engine????? (Which solar system is this guy living in????? LOL!) ________________________________________________________________________________ If gas engines have the same lifespan of diesel engines, then why is there no deduction for miles on a diesel engined motorhome, versus a gas motorhome??? If diesel engines have higher maintenace costs than gas engines, why is it, that I almost never out of pocket on engine repairs, with EVERY diesel engine I've ever owned? All with hundreds of thousands of miles on them when sold. Maintenance costs for a 1999-2001 7.3 PSD. These are costs having the work done at a dealer. If you have the time to do it yourself you can save. Oil and Lube; 15 qts 15W40 and 2 qt filter, $65.00-$90.00 5000 mile intervals. 3000 miles is the HD maintenance.I went 1500 miles this week with trailer. Fuel Filter; $45.00-$55.00 + labor 15000 mile intervals Coolant Additive; $8.00 + labor 15000 mile intervales Coolant Flush; $120.00 30000 mile intervals There is a deduction for miles on diesel trucks. Check KBB or NADA. You get more trade in value for a diesel, but there is a deduction for miles. If they didn't give you more at trade in, who would pay a $5000 premium for diesel? It has been said on this site that GM'S 8.1 gas and Duramax diesel are both rated at 200,000 miles. Is that true or false? Lets talk about fuel milage. I can get 10.5 mpg - 12.5 mpg with my F-350 7.3 PSD, with a 6000#-13000# trailer. That is 13000#-20000# GCW. Lets go to 25000#-26000# GCW or GVW, high profile, 12'-13', and wide body, 100"-102". Everybody I talk to gets 8-9 mpg. That is GM 8.1, Ford V-10, Dodge 5.9 HO, Ford PSD. It just came to me that I have not been able to talk to anyone with a Duramax. Have not come across that many. Rogerg 2001 F-550 1999 Coachmen Prospera 365IKS402Views0likes0CommentsRe: Diesel vs gas......................
The fuel economy has me questioning if the diesel is worth the money. I average 8-9 mpg with the same gcw as guys with the gas motors. With the newer gas motors having the same life span as the diesels,is it really worth the money to buy diesel. I own two diesel trucks and frankly I don't like the cost of the maintenance. 137,000 miles on a 1999 and 65,000 miles on a 2001. The motors run great,the trucks do the job,but you still have the wear and tear on the rest of the truck. Roger420Views0likes0CommentsRe: Diesel vs gas......................
Sounds like someone has a pricker stuck in their butt. Nobody was talking about racing. I was confirming what Bert said. Sounds like your the one racing to pass someone. I wouldn't be trying to pass someone if I had the wife and kids in the truck. That is just plain stupid. Maybe if you are trying to keep momentum going up a hill you don't have enough truck for the trailer. Roger420Views0likes0CommentsRe: Diesel vs gas......................
Wow! That is alot of math. It will take me a while to go through it all. In actual practice I can understand what you are saying. I have talked to many people driving or hauling the same amount of weight,22,000#-26,000# GVW or GCW, and as one guy said,"It doesn,t matter what engine I have, I get 8-9 mpg." No one in our groupe pulls away from the other. Makes you wonder if diesels are worth the money. Roger421Views0likes0CommentsRe: Diesel vs gas......................
I don't have the background that you have, but it seems that if there is less hp and you can pull heavier loads, that torque plays an important role. What I would like to do is a side by side test between gas and diesel with the same trailer. Rogerg359Views0likes0CommentsRe: Diesel vs gas......................
Just one question. My truck and trailer have a GCW of 25,000#. I can drive down the interstate with the cruise control on,in overdrive, and not worry about it downshifting. It only has 250hp. about 100hp less than the GM 8.1 gas and the ford V-10 gas. Why? Rogerg 2001 F-550 CC 1999 Coachman Prospera 365IKS338Views0likes0CommentsRe: Diesel vs gas......................
Aquaduct, i am not saying anyone is a idiot. all that matters is that your rig is safe and that you get out and use it. my post on 7/02/04 in diesel vs. gas lists my reasons for going diesel. you are right in saying it is more than hp and torque. you have to match the truck to the trailer. gearing, brakes, towing and weight capacity, etc. i towed alot with gas motors and it wasn't untill the last six years that i went to diesel. to me it was worth it. the wife is happy because she gets the trailer she wanted and i'm happy because i get the truck i wanted. (your also right about the wife being happy.) have a good weekend in Pa. Rogerg248Views0likes0CommentsRe: Diesel vs gas......................
i have been keeping track of this thread since 6/22/04. i can not believe that the same people are still are having heated discussions about diesel vs. gas. as long as it is safe,who cares? the important thing is that everybody get out and enjoy their rigs. i guess it is time for me to hook up the truck and trailer and head down the highway. set the cruise control in over-drive and not worry about it down-shifting. i only have a gcw of 25,000# and only 250hp. i posted on 7/2/04. Rogerg248Views0likes0CommentsRe: Diesel vs gas......................
This is a very good topic. I have owned compact trucks up to a class 5 diesel. What I like about the diesel is duribility and fuel mileage. I travel alot for work and pleasure so I want something that will last. Most of the time with my 5vr, loaded 15,200#. 2001 F-550,7.3PSD,4.88 gears, 14-15 mpg empty. 8-9 mpg loaded,25,000# gcw. 1999 F-350,7.3PSD,3.73 gears, srw, 18-20 mpg empty. 10-11- mpg loaded,22,200# gcw. 2001 has 60,000 miles and the 1999 has 130,000 miles. Previously owned F-250 4x4 gas V-8 got 10 mpg empty. As for the price of a diesel, I gave up the 4x4 option,witch I rarely used, for the diesel. At 100,000 miles, the diesel added about $3000 to the resale value of the F-350. There is no right or wrong. This works for me. Happy trails to you, Rogerg198Views0likes0Comments
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