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Re: So much for Maxxis tires
And this thread is still funny even though while new is a very old repeat… There are some that are so set on proving the Maxxis is a bad tire that they keep a running total of the reported failures and I am sure just salivate when one is reported… but conveniently don’t attempt to codify the reports even though at the very least some of those very failures were admittedly and reported as caused by operator error, and some were possibly due to age (although I don’t completely buy into the ageing out theory)… they also ignore that it is a proven fact that most tire failures are due to improper care and or road hazard… also since trailer tires do not track the TV tires one can not assume that the TV tires would have had to have safely encountered all of the same road hazards… to say those 29 failures was proof that the Maxxis tires are bad tires would be no different than me saying the junk tire pile at the local tire shop had 30 damaged LT tires in it and not a single ST tire was in the pile… well surely that must mean the ST tire is better that the LT tire… right… Another thing to consider is that statistically the number of LT tires used on light duty trailers (under 10,000 pounds) for many reasons is so insignificant their success or failure couldn’t possibly be quantified… it also still puzzles me is that LT tire manufactures will not suggest or recommend a LT tire as a replacement for a ST tire… even though it is general knowledge that a LT tire of sufficient size and load capacity (first problem for many light duty trailers) could be used… but then again so could P metric or Euro metric tires (after being de-rated by 10% first)… oh btw, about a week ago I had my second ever tire blow out and again it was LT tire on my dedicated TV not on the TT… the two known and good points being made here is the damaged tire didn’t have a catastrophic failure and it should be still under warranty…410Views0likes0CommentsRe: If you could get a new one today.....
12 years of full time use and tens of thousands of miles and only had to replace the furnace blower motor and a awning fabric so far… the OE Duro tires were complete junk (three sidewalls) and replaced by the dealer… So I guess I would have a hard time justifying anything other than a Keystone Hornet like the one I have… I got a lot of bang for my buck when I bought it and everything works flawlessly… I have been so satisfied that I stopper going to the RV shows or showrooms… Maybe someday I will have to start looking for an all-weather unit… but I am not looking forward to that yet…521Views0likes0CommentsRe: ST trailer tire 75 mph rated
There is plenty of confusing and contradictory information from all of the representative industries to and that is so unfortunate… I doubt that anyone is saying LT tires can’t be used, and while LT tires are good tires and using a LT tire is a good choice if you can find one that fits at reasonable prices and only if reasonable mods are required to accomplish the change… reasonable is in the eyes of the beholder of coarse… While the 857 is highly touted as a good replacement for some sizes I have read enough complaints about them to be uncertain if they are any better than a good ST tire… then there are other commercial van tires (commercial seems to be a marketing term) that are not rated as LT tires but are really euro metric passenger tires, much like the extra load and reinforced sidewall tires are and like them carry higher air pressures… all P metric and euro metric can be used as well but they need the sidewall stated loads de-rated by 9% when used for trailer use, but still could contribute to sway especially at highway speeds… also the de-rated load must meet or exceed the axle weight ratings… Still there is a reason that no major tire manufacture will ever recommend using a LT tire as a replacement for a ST tire… they would sell their soul for a profit, so I find it hard to believe with all the marketing and deceit they employ in their marketing that they wouldn’t recommend the use of what is claimed to be a legal and superior tire for replacement of a ST tire… you need to hide from them (be deceitful yourself) that it is a replacement for a ST tire to get their blessing... As far as origin, I have no faith in China to provide CONSISTANT and reliable quality at least not yet… their reputation for quality fade is earned and well deserved… maybe someday… but I don’t see them as a friend, ally, or partner that can be trusted, economically or any other way yet…450Views0likes0CommentsRe: ST trailer tire 75 mph rated
gmw photos wrote: All Airstream travel trailers are under 10,000 pounds. Some come with LT tires standard, and all offer them as optional. Oliver travel trailers are between 5000 and 7000 pounds, and come standard with LT tires. There may be others, but I have not looked to see. You might be correct but I had to check, not to be argumentative but it isn’t a line I have checked, and yet they don’t list them as standard for any model on their website nor where they even mentioned that I saw (one would think they would mention it) and the brochure page was corrupt and wouldn’t download… I am aware there are a few TTs that broach the 10,000 pound range… they and even most of the heavier 5ers do not come with the LT as standard… but offering the fact that a 15,000 pound fiver came with a LT tire has little in the way of value for the much lighter TT that don’t have 16 “ wheels not the room for them in many cases… many don’t even have 6 bolt wheels… However I could be wrong since I have no interest in airstream… and apologize if I am… but the fact remains that options are far and few between for the overwhelming majority of TT users without going to a huge and in my opinion unnecessary expense for most of them… There may be other options but I have differing opinions about some of them to… The 2016 Airstream Classic Classic starting at $126,475 Hitch Weight (w/LP & w/o options, water & cargo) (lbs.) 773 Unit Base Weight (w/LP & w/o options, water & cargo) (lbs.) 7,365 Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (lbs.) 10,000 Standard Features Alloy wheels STD Aluminum bumper with storage STD Aluminum LP bottle cover STD Bright-finish alcoa aluminum STD Cable and portable satellite hook-ups STD Deep cycle 12v battery STD Digital TV antenna STD Dual LP gas tanks with LP tank cover STD Enclosed, insulated underbelly with heated holding tanks STD Exterior LP gas port and adapter STD Exterior shower and 120V outlet STD LED step light and exterior convenience lighting STD Power hitch jack with light STD Power stabilizers STD Premium awning package STD Rockguard protection STD Second Quietstream A/C w/ heat pump (13,500 BTU) w/50 Amp Service STD Solar pre-wiring STD Spare tire STD Stabilizer jacks STD Stainless steel stoneguards STD Stainless steel trim package STD Zip-Dee™ patio awning STD Boy requesting a brochure already created 2 sales calls from AS sales people…451Views0likes0CommentsRe: ST trailer tire 75 mph rated
More arguments that have no relevance to the light weight travel trailer market that this forum is all about… No light weight travel trailers offer LTs as standard OE tires and I doubt if any even offer them as an option… the only exception might be for off road versions that may use an aggressive tread pattern… If you want to argue what heavy fifth wheel trailers MIGHT OFFER and only might offer, it would be best made in the 5er forums where they carry some relevance and meaning… but all you are doing here is mudding the water to support your beliefs, and adding to the confusion to the topic of tires for light duty trailers (under 10,000 pounds) as ALMOST all travel trailers are… while the concerns may be similar for the larger high end trailers, the solutions are far different in most TT applications and can be much more expensive or even near impossible for many to have the same options as a 15,000+ pound 5er… you would do the TT forum a service to not even post unrelated rhetoric that has little to no meaning here… it only serves to confuse the issue for those trying to come up with realistic solutions to their own issues… as far as the ST LT debate most RVers I have met and talked to are not even aware there is a tire issue and have never had a issue of their own… I myself have used exclusively ST tires on multiple trailers without a single failure over many years and thousands upon thousands of miles, and I believe those having multiple failures need to look within to find the real problem, or spend thousands raising the trailer and upgrading hubs, wheels and tires to a point where even they can’t destroy them… which it seems is one option being offered by some… I will point out it is one that will work if you have a oversized wallet… I think I am going to go and mod my golf cart with a lift kit, 16” wheels and XPS tires so I never have another flat tire again… but I will talk about that in a golf cart forum or in the around the campfire forum…450Views0likes0CommentsRe: Propane Tanks Question
The confusion comes from the fact that a metered gallon isn’t a gallon most of the time… with home heating propane it isn’t a problem because all of the delivery truck meters are required to be adapted to compensate for temperature… most sellers readily agree to this added expense because without it in cold weather when they sell the most propane they would be short changing themselves… As far as I know small cylinder propane filling stations are not required to have the ATCD, most likely because each sale is such a small quantity… But a pound is always a pound…939Views0likes0CommentsRe: Propane Tanks Question
Propane is always sold by weight but often converted to gallons… A full 20# tank is full when it has 20# of propane and is 80% full by volume… The only true measure of propane is by weight or at a temperature of 60* if by volume … obviously we don’t always have those controlled conditions… A pound of propane has the same BTU content at any temp, a gallon would not… Propane has a high expansion rate and the tanks, bottles or cylinders (your choice) can be overfilled if filled by volume only without a temperature compensation device… all home delivery trucks are required to have these devices for home heating propane but unfortunately it isn’t required at all small tank filling stations… It is never a good idea to fill you tanks in a cold climate when you will be immediately heading to a warm or a hot climate… expansion can cause the tanks to vent off the excess gas into the atmosphere and be dangerous at times… It is not always a good idea in the southwest to fill the tanks when going to cold high altitude locations… some propane sold in the SW has a higher concentration of butane in the propane that is less suitable for use in cold temperatures… Best bet is to fill the tanks near the area where they will be used, although that isn’t always possible… I would like to know how a 20 pound cylinder can be filled to 18 or 20 pounds of liquid from a bulk vapor delivery system…939Views0likes0CommentsRe: Propane hoses leak -- both of 'em
ECones wrote: coolmom42 wrote: Sometimes old hoses will be fine as long as they are not moved from a relatively fixed position. But when you move them and flex them in different directions than previously, the previously invisible cracks go on through the material. Propane cylinders are designed to hold their designated weight at 80% of their absolutely maximum volume. Your 21 lb measurement is probably due to rounding off of the tank empty and full weights; if the weights were at something like 2 or more decimal places, you would probably have exactly 20 lb. Propane tanks/cylinders are manufactured to pretty tight DOT specs, and they won't vary much coming off the assembly line. I weighed the empty tanks by weighing myself with and without the tanks and subtracting. The scale is a digital bathroom scale rounded to a full pound. Then, of course, I did the same thing with the full tanks. You're exactly right that after all that subtracting with rounded weights, that 21 pound tank could easily have been 20. A full 20# tank is full when it has 20# of propane and is 80% full by volume… The only true measure of propane is by weight or at a temperature of 60* if by volume … obviously we don’t always have those controlled conditions… Propane has a high expansion rate and the tanks can be overfilled if filled by volume only without a temperature compensation device… all home delivery trucks are required to have these devices for home heating propane but it isn’t required at small tank filling stations… It is never a good idea to fill you tanks in a cold climate when you will be immediately heading to a warm or a hot climate… expansion can cause the tanks to vent off the excess gas into the atmosphere and be dangerous at times… It is not always a good idea in the southwest to fill the tanks when going to cold high altitude locations… some propane sold in the SW has a higher concentration of butane in the propane that is less suitable for use in cold temperatures… Best bet is to fill the tanks near the area where they will be used, although that isn’t always possible…344Views0likes0CommentsRe: 56 chevy and a 86 komfort tt
MFL wrote: The 283 was available in 56. Jerry If my fading memory serves me correctly the 283 only came in the 57 model year up, however the 57 model year was available for sale in the year of 56… but I think all 56 model year vehicles came with the 265… but I make no guarantee for my beliefs…577Views0likes0Comments
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