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Re: Diesel vs gas......................
Sorry all, IMO: Though peevish he may be, 8.1 van man does win in regard to what makes frugal sense. Consider diesel at $1 more than gas; a diesel engine gets about 25% better fuel economy than a gasser (whether towing or empty, on average); about $5k more entry cost for the diesel - then over the course of about 150k miles the gasser saves more than $10k... (Okay, trade your diesel in for a gasser and get some resale of the diesel back into your pocket - call it $7k...) But consider Mr. Peevish's best argument - he bought a used van for cheap, way cheap. Mayby $30k and more less than what some of us drive. You finance yours, add $6k to $10k in cost... Bottom line - he saved, is saving - tens of thousands. And in this economy...236Views0likes0CommentsRe: Diesel vs gas......................
8.1 Van wrote: mgratner wrote: This thread has become stupid and I believe the moderator should close it. Cigar Mike I agree, most diesel owners hate talking about Diesel vs gas now that diesel fuel cost so much more than gas. Or that most diesel owners hate talking with YOU for they are long weary of you prodding them with heavy handed doses of gloat and smug... I bought a diesel when I did because it was a great used deal at the time and I had wanted to own one. Price of diesel is of no concern then, or now. These days I enjoy arriving at a camp site and watching my wife peel the contents of the camper off the inside back wall...:W231Views0likes0CommentsRe: Diesel vs gas......................
Madhatter1 wrote: Rvndave has a good point. For years I bought diesel for this very reason (and long engine life). The fuel economy is not just about $. I can leave St Pete FL full, fuel at south GA and middle of VA and make it to NY or MA. Fuel stops cost time. I used to drive 60K every year in my business. Now I bought 1 year ago a big toy hauler (pulled about 8-9K so far) and now I also get the heavy pulling power benifit. I now drive 40K business unloaded and 9-10K very loaded. There is no way a BB gas can do what I want. As I have said before the choice is up to the individual needs. I got what I need but you get what you need. 8.1 does not mind the extra fuel stops because with 12 people someone always gotta go pee. Note to 8.1, if your passengers pay for your fuel then you are transporting for compensation (illegal commercial operation). You will find this out if you ever have an injury and someone gets a lawyer. Don't take my word, check this out yourself. This may draw another nutty response. Herein I find the best reason ever for one fuel type over another - "someone has always gotta go pee"246Views0likes0CommentsRe: Diesel vs gas......................
Not mellow. Mallow!! Marshmallow... Wiki says: "The traditional recipe used an extract from the mucilaginous root of the marshmallow plant, a shrubby herb (Althaea officinalis), instead of gelatin; the mucilage was used to soothe sore throats." Mucilaginous, hmmm, maybe I won't buy them after all...340Views0likes0CommentsRe: Diesel vs gas......................
Rvndave wrote: I have yet to see a gasser getting 18 MPG, but whatever. From Houston to Memphis, and then again on the way back I got 18+ mpg in my '98 K1500 5.7l gasser. Kept her at 65 mph and enjoyed the music. Pretty flat here to there of course.301Views0likes0CommentsRe: Diesel vs gas......................
8.1 Van wrote: You forgot the $24,500 I got for selling my 2003 6.0 PSD Excursion in 2007 when diesel was cheaper than gas then paying $7,900 in March 2008 for the loaded 2002 3500LS 8.1 passenger van. I now have enough money left over to pay for gas for many years. I also had over 20 quarts of 5w-40 Mobil 1 left over from the Excursion since I sold it just before the PSD 30,000 mile fluid changes were due and that is good for three 8.1 oil changes. BTW gas is $1.11 cheaper than diesel here in NJ today. Okay, $1.11 difference gas vs diesel. That figures to a whopping $69 a month in fuel savings from the previous calculation. That seems a nice amount if one is talking about a paid for vehicle, but to my way of thinking it is just noise if one is stradled with $600 payments, $100 insurance, and $50 property tax/license per month on the thing. And I again stand with you in your decision to dump the Excursion and buy the used van - That was a wise financial move. Even prescient given the today’s state of the economy, jobs outlook, used prices of big SUVs, etc. But the continual blather about saving money on fill ups gas vs diesel is noisome, well, at least annoying anyway - because nobody does any math to quantify the argument...301Views0likes0CommentsRe: Diesel vs gas......................
Rvndave wrote: Try doing the math at 22 MPG in my diesel truck. This is what I average on my 40 mile round trip to and from work, in my diesel. Okay. I'll give you 22 mpg and the gasser 18 mpg through the whole 15,000 and the delta cost per month goes to $31.69.301Views0likes0CommentsRe: Diesel vs gas......................
TxCoastCamper wrote: ...snip Okay, for the simple minded - a difference of $59.67 a month. If I may quote myself, for some people have more credit than brains... (which is quite different than having more money than brains!) Some folks make a $40k truck purchase. NO, make that $50k if you add financing and license fees... So $50k and they worry about 60 buck a month fuel cost delta, gas vs diesel. Parents - teach your kids some math! Financial math. Save your kids from repeating YOUR mistakes!!! Okay, I am off my soap box. And off to get another fine Pale Ale, good night...302Views0likes0CommentsRe: Diesel vs gas......................
8.1 Van wrote: I only had 8 people last week on our vacation at Seaside Resort in North Myrtle Beach SC. BTW diesel finally is under $3 here in NJ but gas is still more than $1 less. Blah, blah, blah... I am glad you got a USED gasser - used is were you win, (though with the coming 40% off fire sale in Dec/Jan that for this one time might be debatable...). But give up on the incessant, never ending, Ad nauseam blather about gas vs diesel ... Consider: At 15,000 miles per year, say 12 mpg gas vs 14 mpg diesel average over all, and a $1.99 gas vs $2.99 diesel costs and WHAT YA GOT?? A whopping $716.07 difference per year! Okay, for the simple minded - a difference of $59.67 a month.298Views0likes0CommentsRe: Diesel vs gas......................
John & Dana wrote: I'm buying a 31 ft 5th wheel (weight 10,500#) and will need a 3/4 ton pick-up. I've read all the posts,but I'd like some specific advice. I will use this as a daily driver and will put about 15,000 miles a year on it. I will pull the trailer once or twice a month on a 300 mile round trip. I will probably trade the truch after 3 years with under 50,000 miles. So which is the most cost efffective for me, diesel or gas. I know the diesel PU intially costs more, but the salesperson said I'd get more for the trade-in! What say you ?? Here is a thought - buy used, whether BB or diesel. There are a bunch of folks that have over spent, even bought big trucks just last year, and find themselves upside down in life. They need to get rid of their vehicles. Downside - you need to take care that you get clear title. Those folks likely will need to add some of their money with your money in a big check to a finance company... Or look for used on a dealer lot. Then look at a new one. Then back to the used one. Like that for about 2 hours... Good luck!!!299Views0likes0Comments
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