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Re: Best All Year Four Seasons Full Time Fifth Wheels
Gitane59, Why yes, you have enhanced my experience here. Landmark Savannah? Quite the rig indeed. Canadian Glendale RV. Titanium showed a lot of promise. Industry shocker. US Franklin/Heritage, of the longest fifth wheels ever made, were right at the turn of evolving into higher luxury and specs to probably hit the list today if had not that tornado hit in 2007 in Nappanee, IN. So it goes.20KViews0likes0CommentsRe: Best All Year Four Seasons Full Time Fifth Wheels
Agreed, if you stay in moderate areas, you have over bought from my OP. Not really needed. That is Montana's and Cedar Creek's claim to rv fame - solid fivers for overall moderate temps at a fair price point. A equipped Cougar is becoming very popular in this market tier. Most of the rv activity is in moderate, 3 seasons conditions. But, if you travel all North American regions you just may, wait, you will be that stressed out man down by the river with a short stick and 9 inches of duct tape left. Wilma and Joe in their Redwood on that same "down by the river" so called down and out locale will be looking at ya shaking their heads drinking lattes. The intention of my OP was not talking survivalist outcomes in a small trailer with their Coleman equipment, woolen blankets, REI handbooks and learned, excellent, human ingenuity skills. That belongs in a different forum. The trailer did not survive them, they survived the trailer. Nor is it about validating a mid range fiver to a high end luxury all year fiver. That is apples and oranges. The post is the Best All Year Four Seasons Full Time Fifth Wheels. Let's not struggle, carve, wrap, stretch and ground freeze your meats in foil. Moreover, have a cup of warm cocoa watching your 40 inch Samsung.20KViews0likes0CommentsRe: Best All Year Four Seasons Full Time Fifth Wheels
No, not bitter. Your just od on the snow. I am od on heat and bright, bright sun blaring at me. I love the Mexican food though. Wow. That is cold. You just froze my tanks. I may need to pad, skirt, under heater, car port - the standard extra lame additives that will no longer make him a stand alone. No, I'll need a 2043 model for that one!758Views0likes0CommentsRe: Best All Year Four Seasons Full Time Fifth Wheels
That did it. I read them all - throwing bbq untensils at my tinted storm windows. "Careful with the gel coat!" My favorites were the meds ones, newbie lecturing??? and the Yoda slam. Some rvers love the cold. I do. What alot of rvers do not realize is that in the north it gets real cold. Serious cold. Not the at 43f and "it's feels cold, honey" concept. The deep cold reality. Long months of frozen. -10f and in 20 minutes outside you will perish without cover. I'm serious. It's costlier to heat in winter up north than to cool in summer in the south. I love the Pennsylvania Poconos and Newport, RI in winter. The only rigs I ever see out fully operating are diesel class A motorhomes and the fivers that are not the standard fivers. Most always the Landmarks, Cardinals, DRVs and toy haulers. People who know winter. They are die hard. You need serious, fail proof stuff. Even if I went to Whistler for a week, I'd still be dreaming of my fiver in my hotel room, especially my own untouched bed and bathroom on wheels. If my wife wants Montana in dead winter, as long as the roads are clear and the all year rv site is clear and available, we go. I've seen Alpines, Big Country, Sanibel, Big Sky, Arctic Fox, Trilogy (note - these are recommended upper med-high for weather) here and there. The mid to med-high level is rising, still not common for staying 3 long months in winter. Some may not realize that mid to med-high good fivers can break down over long temp periods. I've seen Montanas and Excels freeze up. As long as the roads are clear and fairly flat passage in winter, why bother with always only just experiencing the sun. She loves the California and Arizona deserts. There nice but that's limited really, not exactly comprehensive traveling. Alberta is awesome in winter. Have you ever done a campfire at 3f at night? The amazing feeling you get in 103f Tucson opening the door of a cooled mere 3 seasons ac trailer? It's even more astounding opening the door of a equipped heated rig frozen in snow at -3f for months, a swift change to 74f and hot water perk from the tap. RV all year tech will be here for all levels of rvs. Ground landline phone becomes the cell phone becomes the smartphone - smartphones are common. Specs, r values one day will not matter anymore. The 3 seasons term will be passé. Why bother keeping a seasonal rv clock. Throw it away. My clock is ticking away. Experience all the seasons at anytime. Freedom. "So Put Me On A Highway, Show Me A Sign"(Take It To The Limit-The Eagles).757Views0likes0CommentsRe: Best All Year Four Seasons Full Time Fifth Wheels
Large fivers are bigger in interior space than motorhomes. I can detach. I will wait on the full roof solar panels that can even charge in the dark and run all items with 70K furnace and oven, even at once. In effect - propane no longer needed. Odorless tech sewer systems that decompose and evaporates waste from the underbelly or sides. In effect - dumping the tank is no longer needed. Soundless generators that go 10 weeks on 1 gallon of gas or water. Insulation that won't freeze water even with the solar energy off, eliminating winterizing. Never really needing to do anything with your rv - all year. All you need to do with the rig is... just add water. This will be someday. Not soon, but someday. My sis chose a gently used beautiful 2010 Carriage. It's her decision. No argument from me. Thanks all.362Views0likes0CommentsRe: Best All Year Four Seasons Full Time Fifth Wheels
And that is what they are doing. Wyotraveler is correct. The only way a true full timer can live out their older years in real freedom at the drop of hat is to pay out of the mouth for the very few rigs left to park and play under any upcoming weather conditions and not worry. The high end fiver world is closing. Either going out of business or forced to be aquired by a wealthier maker. Few buyers. There will not be new high end start ups daring to enter the market at this juncture. The full all year Class A Diesel pushers are also scraping by. Making your beloved mobile space too expensive to buy and operate that you are forced to be like everyone else and chase the weather changes. "Oh, we got to leave Minneapolis and get down to Florida and plug in fast!" We are close with all this technology, but will not get there soon with a all out capable self sustaining 5ver. Either your 3 seasons or alternate regions.363Views0likes0CommentsRe: Best All Year Four Seasons Full Time Fifth Wheels
Gitane59, All aluminum super structure. Bay Hill has risen. Lifestyle Luxury and Bay Hill are actually below Cardinal. Stand alone is meaning here to stand on their own operating under all conditions. I own a Elite Suites Memphis and now I want to buy my sister and brother in law a high end fiver for the 10 year union. It gets real old hearing the bells and whistles about a starter pup Montana or a tart Nuwa. You are not going to tell me Scottsdale is better than Palm Springs. Don't think so. Not 2003, but today. Big play is in my OP. Do you really think mega FR is going to present their best high end fiver to compare with a mid or upper mid fiver? Full timing weather wise in the lower regions is quite, quite different than full timing in the northern regions. Most any say Hitchhiker or Rushmore with the said "polar pack" will get you there all year staying in the fairly moderate lower regions weather zones. I need contention, brilliance. Wyotraveler and Collierhauler has taken me there. Any new, true top end fiver start ups out there? Perhaps a unknown, micro Indiana company? Stanford, not USC. You then will enhance my membership here at RV Net.354Views0likes0CommentsBest All Year Four Seasons Full Time Fifth Wheels
A true all year, all seasons full time fifth wheel main factor is it has to withstand temps below 0 and above 100 with no issue. Extreme inter rigid construction. Continuous full time living in extreme temps, stand alone house on wheels. These are the very few, most expensive, heaviest, luxurious "try to play with me" monsters that no other trailer nor fifth comes near. By actual specs: 40k+ furnaces, 30+ r values and extensive under carriage blown heating (not only just mere heating pads). The largest fifth wheels sheer size and space accommodate what is needed to hold high level specs needed. They are not trailers nor toy haulers. You get what you pay for. You think not, challenge? Currently, alot of makers make claims here and there but for the most part, in the end they will not stand up by itself to extensive periods of time through all extreme seasons. Go to RV Trader, RVT, etc. and put in the highest priced fivers (non toy hauler). Download from each maker's site the pdf spec sheet. You will be shocked. Why are they so pricey, some more expensive than some homes? Construction, durable long lasting - come rain or shine. Old man Canadian winter or Arizona heatwave summer. And, oh yes, let's not play here: You will be paying for the propane to run the beast, but... no skirting needed. The chosen few are The Stand Alones. These are the fifth wheels - Forest River - Cardinal, RiverStone. Thor - Landmark. DRV - Mobile Suites, Elite Suites. Crossroads - Redwood. Independent lines - Forks RV - Continental Coach (custom made). New Horizons (custom made (post added and confirmed - you are correct Colliehauler). Recent Past Orphaned Lines - Evergreen - Lifestyle Luxury, Bay Hill. Carriage - Carri Lite, Royals. DRV - Tradition, Estates. Newmar - Kountry Aire. Teton - Royal, Experience. Note: Popular notions - Good brands like Cedar Creek, Montana lines are not true 4 seasons fivers. New recent high specs are specialized order, not standard. Nuwa and orphaned Excel lines lack in overall extreme r values. Carriage Cameo line falls into the upper mid fiver level, like Montana or Cedar Creek. Always trusted and respected Arctic Fox's quality line is considered upper mid. Models listed above as best now far exceed AF's specs. Regards, Mark45KViews0likes64Comments
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