All ActivityMost RecentMost LikesSolutionsRe: Reality of a front deck toy hauler nayther wrote: The difference on the drive axle from with/without should be your tongue weight so 1300 would be right, so your trailer weighs 6,140# without your bike on the front, add the bike and your tongue weight is over 2,000#! Then I have to ask, why the heck would they design this?! The camper is at limits itself....without a "toy". Golf carts weight similarly, so its not like they are substantially lighter.Re: Reality of a front deck toy haulerOK! I have more info!Re: Incorrect specs on tires? What are my options....Actually I did weigh it on our outing this weekend. Came in at 4840, and it's on dual 3k dexter axles. I'll go and double check the leafs, I'm pretty sure they aren't flat - but not certain.Re: Reality of a front deck toy haulerSo I have HALF of the info. I need to go back and do a tare weigh this week to get the other half, but here's what I weigh fully packed and ready to rock; Steer: 3300 Drive: 4600 Trailer: 4840 Total: 12740Re: Incorrect specs on tires? What are my options....So I actually got a load range D, not E like I thought. But, I did buy them in radial. So I guess I screwed the pooch on that one. My WDH shank is already in the drop position. I thought for a second it wasnt, but after looking at it again, I'm certain it is. I believe this is fully stock. While I could never prove it, the camper never got that much use prior to my purchase. The oven had not been used a single time, and this is a 2007 model. My guess would be that it has less than 5k worth of road miles on it, and with that is bone stock. I assume that the original owners ran into the same issue I am, and put on the shorter profile tires. Here's a pic of it, just before I dropped the WDH down a hole. It helped, but not much; PicIncorrect specs on tires? What are my options....Hey all....yet another dramatic chapter in my first year of camper ownership. Good news though, all my recent pex plumbing repairs on the water heater are good! Onto the not so great news. Now, I first want to mention, I dont BELIEVE I had this issue when I towed with my toyota sequoia. Now, I did NOT have tow mirrors on the seq, I simply may not have seen it. Anyhow, I understand there are a few variables at play here. My 2007 Suburban 2500 sits a bit higher, and the hitch is IN the bumper, versus under it. So my WDH is on the lowest possible slot on the shank, but it still is pitched a bit higher than level. Anyhow, onto the issue. The camper has 14" wheels. When I bought it, it had tires that were NOT spec. I can't seem to find the pic that was taken of the sidewalls, but they were NOT what the camper had on the sticker. They were an odd size, and it seemed only Carlisle made them. They were well over $100/tire, and hard to find. Now, the sticker calls for ST205/75D14 at 50 lbs. So, me wanting to stick with what the builder called for....stuck with ST205-75-14. I think I did go with E rated though, instead of D. Anyhow, when I hit a medium or greater bump, the tires hit the inside of the wheel well, and smoke off. It's just a second or so, but I felt bad for the drivers behind me thinking WTF?!?? heh. I can barely get a fingers width between the wheel well and the tire tread, with less so on the rear tire. This was the second run with my dad and son with the camper, and the first we had the sequoia. I had felt it was a little under power, so I got this suburban - and it towed great. So I guess I have a few questions; 1) why would the builder put tires with such little clearance on it? 2) what other options, in more popular (read; cheaper) sizes could I swap for tires 3) is the pitch up going to make a huge difference in tire clearance? (I can get the extra long shank, but its 90 bucks) Thanks in advance, I appreciate everyone's expertise as I work through this problematic first season.Re: Reality of a front deck toy hauler Bedlam wrote: That depends on how far forward or back your trailer axles sit. 400 lbs on the rear of the popup only dropped tongue weight 100 lbs for my neighbor. Yeesh. stupid physics.Re: Reality of a front deck toy hauler Y-Guy wrote: Before you have the ramp built I'd get your setup to some CAT scales to see what your tongue weight is and what it's going to be with the Harley up front. Most of the weight of that Harley will be transferred right to your hitch. Check your specs for your Burb too. Adding anything won't change if you are beyond your ratings, but might make the drive better. Will do...there are two truck stops within 20 minutes that are on the cat locator map. I'll get it weighed ASAP. Back to cantilever....could I throw in 200 lbs of sand in the back to help even things out?Re: Reality of a front deck toy haulerYep, that's the one. I was going to post a link of that too, but you beat me to it. Sunray RV got enveloped into another small RV company, so needless to say there's zero documentation online. Overall, I feel that it's a well built unit, just kind of odd with the front deck. The guy I bought it from said he had his harley on it...but his credibility is nil.Re: Reality of a front deck toy haulerI know..thats why I'm asking! lol I have been looking at other bikes too to take on my travels. However, none of them are as good at 2 up as my wing. I also have a kawasaki concours, that would be about 200lbs lighter, but harder to strap down. I dont see any labels on the decking that would outline the weight capacity, however it does have 1500lbs folding ramps built on to it. This is a Sunray RV Smokey 23TH. It's 23 ft long in total, but 18 of that is camper. I dont know what the actual weights are right now. I know it's all in spec as it's pretty bone stock. The WDH is 1200 lbs, I bought the biggest one I could get on amazon and the eaz lift was rated pretty high. Would it be reasonable to cantilever it with some sandbags in the back of the camper? I have a pretty fair amount of stuff in the storage compartment at the rear. But mostly just my water and sewage supplies. Nothing with any real weight.
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