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Re: Help - Sunset Trail by Crossroads or the Jayco WhiteHawk
thanks - there is a big sale this week which takes it from the list of 36K to 26K, we didn't look at numbers much since we just saw it today! We did also notice many of the things included like the extra slide windows, the bigger fridge, etc. A few little things I didn't like was the single cabinet door that opens to the drawers vs. just single drawers but it's not a biggie. Is yours holding up well with wear and tear?580Views0likes0CommentsRe: Help - Sunset Trail by Crossroads or the Jayco WhiteHawk
Can you guys tell me what you like about the Sunset, a little worried about the 1yr warranty vs. the 2yr. Bu I have to say, the layout is really appealing. Are they reliable? Hold up well? Not too familiar with the line.580Views0likes0CommentsRe: Can you check my weight numbers please
so what should we do to weigh it - just load the car portion like we are going camping - kids, dogs gas & stuff??? Then is it just the whole car or do you then just weigh the front tires and then the same for the back?? Just trying to get this right since in all the reading and number pulling - we realized many people are probably towing beyond the TV recommendations because you must take ALL the numbers into account and be sure not to exceed any of them. Per the Ford Tow guide, you have to account for the weakest link in the chain. Just because you are rated to tow 8700#, doesn't mean you actually can tow it safely. We were actually a little surprised. Even the payload amounts - man, 4 big guys heading out on a fishing trip could tip that payload number once you account for the hitch. Just was a little shocking.292Views0likes0CommentsRe: Can you check my weight numbers please
Hmm - my husband has the truck with the owners book so I can check later but if I do the math on the GVWR of 7720# and subtract out the wt of the car, that leaves 1642# and it currently says max payload is only 1420#, my guess is that the other 220# is allowing some for the driver and a tank of gas but I'd have to check to be sure. So maybe my passenger weight is actually lower??? Maybe I'm wrong.292Views0likes0CommentsRe: Help - Sunset Trail by Crossroads or the Jayco WhiteHawk
THANKS - I'll check that out. Woodglue - we looked at the Lance on-line and did really like it, especially since that 3rd bunk on to floor would work nicely for our 2 dogs! No one has them around here and they said the earliest is the fall. I'm not getting one sight unseen without having been able to walk in one. With the 2 big dogs, we like some of the open floorplans.141Views0likes0CommentsRe: Help - Sunset Trail by Crossroads or the Jayco WhiteHawk
Woodglue - is there a brand/series you would prefer that has a bunkhouse. Honestly, there are so many options it's hard to figure where to start. These are 2 we really liked and wanted to shorten our list to just one of these.141Views0likes0CommentsCan you check my weight numbers please
Thanks again for all the help I've gotten as we try to find the right TT for us! I wondered if someone could look over our numbers. All info was taken directly from the car or the Ford Towing guide. We have a 2012 For Expedition EL with the V8 engine, 4x4 and upgraded class IV tow pkg. Max loaded trailer = 8700# Hitch & receiver capacity with a WD hitch = 890# Max Occ & cargo (payload) = 1422# Gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) = 7720# Gross combined weight rating (GVW + loaded trailer) = 15000# RGAWR = 4250# FGAWR = 3700# curb vehicle weight = 6078# Our GVW we calculated to be: 6078 + ~700 (4 passengers, dogs and some cargo) = 6678# so we are OK here since max is 7720# Our Gross Combo weight (GVW + loaded trailer) was estimated at: 6678 + 5800 (the selected TT wts) + 1000# stuff = 13478# so we are OK there since max is 15000# Edited to add the "hitch weight" of the TT's we've looked at has been in the 560-590# range. Payload was calculated to be: 350# (2 adults) + 150# (2 kids) + 150# (2 dogs) + 100# misc. stuff = 750# so we are OK there with room to spare! So here is the "debated part" as to what would be OK for the LOADED trailer weight. If we use the 13-15% range advised here, our LOADED trailer should be between 5930-6850#. Ford book does advise 10-15% for the weights but we'd like to stay on the side of not pushing it to the max. The trailers we are looking at all seem to hover in the 5200-5800# dry weight (this is not just the listed weight, these are actual on-th-lot weights). Allowing 1000# buffer for stuff, brings us right up to or desired max of 6200-6800#. What do you guys think? Initially my husband had really hoped to be lower in weight and have more buffer. I have decided these salesman know nothing - they keep trying to show us trailers in the high 6000# weights!!!! Telling us we are looking way lower than we need to. This would be our first experience with a TT. We are more "weekend warrior" type campers and will certainly do some week long trips but by no means living in this. We are camping mostly in the Pennsylvania and other East-coast areas.1.9KViews0likes9CommentsHelp - Sunset Trail by Crossroads or the Jayco WhiteHawk
We are narrowing our choices for a bunkhouse unit. Still need to see the KZ's but are really impressed with the Jayco WhiteHawk and the Sunset Trail ST290QB. We actually had narrowed the Jayco's to the WhiteHawk and went back to peek and see if we wanted to make the trek to see any KZ's, the salesman showed us the Sunset trail and we were really impressed - and torn. No 2 yr warranty but it had the vinyl/faux leather interior which I liked since it can be wiped (2 kids, 2 dogs and a cat!). The ceiling is slightly domed giving more head room, there are extra windows on the dinette slide which lets tons more light in, the bathroom shower is MUCH nicer, you gain an outside kitchen and most importantly the kids essentially get a room, they have a door and 2 larger than single bunks on one side then a little dinette with a standard single that folds up over the top. There is a spot for a TV which is appealing. It was really nice. We like the reputation and warranty of the Jayco. It's the same dealer for both. Weights are almost equal so that is not a factor - ~5800# on the lot as is. The Jayco has a CC of 2210# and the Sunset is at 1627#. The Jayco has the double size bunks for the kids, microfiber fabric, outside bathroom door. Layouts are really similar. So - which between these is preferred and why??? I don't know much about the Sunset brand. The finishing seemed nice, etc. Just making sure they didn't put lipstick on a pig - know what I mean! The idea of having a separate room for the kids is appealing - so is the wood door if we want to be up late, etc. I want to get something that will last and it is a big investment - the Sunset was actually a little more money but we are OK with that. Curious to hear what people say!!!5.7KViews0likes23Comments
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