All ActivityMost RecentMost LikesSolutionsRe: Looking for help on TT decisionThanks again for all of the replies. We have decided not to get this trailer. I just don't think it is worth the risk nor the hit to my mental health while towing. We are starting to look for a used truck for a tow vehicle which would give us a lot more options then we have with the Sequoia. Time for another new learning experience.Re: Looking for help on TT decisionThanks for the answer and clarification. That is how I understood it as well. It is amazing the bad info given out by the sales persons.Re: Looking for help on TT decisionThanks for all the replies. I truly appreciate them. So much information to take in. I was able to weigh my truck today as if we were going camping and I was 30 pounds light on my payload numbers. Front Axle - 2980 Rear Axle - 3300 Total Axle - 6280 That puts my leftover payload at 820 Lbs. So if I understand correctly, If I am able to load the trailer and keep the Tongue/WDH weight combo under this number and close to 12% of trailer weight, I am within limits of my truck(barely) Also, if I understand correctly, the tongue/WDH weight will spread out between the 2 TV axles and partially the trailer axles. So I should remain under my max axle weights both front and back. Bottom line I guess is while I should be able to tow this within limits I am pushing the max of of TV and it might not be a pleasant experience. I already tried talking the wife into a new TV but no luck there. Yet. Part of the deal does include a Fastway E2 WDH and a brake controller. So I will be using a WDH to tow. camp-n-family wrote: If you're really concerned about staying under payload consider that a portion (~20percent)of that tongue weight will get transferred back onto the tt axles through the use of a wdh. I have read so many different beliefs on this I am not sure what to believe anymore. While I understand that the WDH will help redistribute the load across the front/rear/trailer axles, does it actually reduce the tongue weight? I had a salesman tell me the same thing(I am skeptical). So all of a sudden my fully loaded 828Lbs(12% OF 6900) tongue weight turns to 640(828-20%)?? Seems to good to be true. If that is the case then I would feel more comfortable towing this trailer. I do have the 5.7 Liter with 4.30 rear end and tow/haul mode so I am not really worried about power. Thanks again to everyone. I have a lot to think about.Re: Looking for help on TT decisionThanks for the replies. I will get my TV weighed and see where I am at then. This is quite a learning experience to say the least.Looking for help on TT decisionHello everyone. I am in the market for a travel trailer and have found one I like and I think I can tow but I want to see if anyone can take a look at the numbers and double check to make sure I am not overlooking anything. We currently have a 2013 Toyota Sequoia SR5 W/Tow Package. As is well known the limiting factor on the Sequoias is the cargo capacity. We have been looking and have found a trailer we like, think we can safely tow and have got it down to what we think is a good price. Here are the details I am working with. GVWR of Truck - 7100 Tow Capacity - 7400 GCWR of Truck - 16000 RAWR of Truck - 4280 FAWR of Truck - 3900 Curb weight of Truck - 5730 Payload - 1350 Max tongue weight - 1000 I am going to a scale this week to get actual weights of the front/rear axle and current vehicle weight. We usually travel just my wife, 2 labs and myself. I assume with the trailer we will keep most of the cargo in the trailer except some snacks so I am going to get it weighed with the 4 of us and a full tank of gas. Here are the numbers I am working with. Payload of 1350 - 500(Wife, dogs and myself)= 850 So as long as the tongue weight is under 850 I think we should be good? Here are the trailer details. Heartland Mallard M27 GVWR 6,900 lbs Dry Weight 5,500 lbs Hitch Weight 475 lbs Width 8' 0" Height 11' 2" Length 30' 4" Fresh Water 36 gal Gray Water 37 gal Black Water 35 gal LP Capacity(2) 20 lbs Since the cargo weight is my primary concern, the hitch weight is what I am focusing on here(Maybe I shouldn't be?) The GVWR is 500 Lbs under my TVs towing limit and I am anticipating about 1000 Lbs cargo added to the trailer when we are out on trips which would leave us about 900 Lbs cushion. Based on the trailer numbers the 475 hitch weight is about 9% of dry weight. Continuing with that 9%, even fully loaded the hitch weight would be roughly 621. I don't think we will ever get it that heavy but we never know until we start packing. Based on the 1000 Lbs of cargo I am looking at 6500 @ 9% = 585 hitch weight. Even at 621 hitch weight it is still under 850 so I believe I should be good. Here are my questions. Should I be giving myself more cushion on the max trailer weight? Is the trailer too long for the Sequoias 122 wheel base? Once we start loading with full propane tanks and cargo would the hitch weight go up significantly? Is 9% a number subject to change based on how we load the TT? Am I missing anything here? Thanks in advance for any assistance with this. I will update this post with actual weights once I get them. -Rick
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