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Re: Suburban IW60 Nautilus Tankless Water Heater?
Gdetrailer wrote: Tank maintenance, just because a tankless water heater doesn't have a tank doesn't mean there is no maintenance. Tankless systems are prone to mineral buildup in the water tubes, To combat that there is a maintenance procedure that needs to be followed which flushes the mineral buildup out of the tubes. Water naturally has minerals suspended in it, some sources the mineral content can be considerable. Municipal water systems tend to have lower mineral concentrations, water well sources without a softening system can have extremely high mineral content. Something else to consider, you may need to make some propane system upgrades, regulator and hoses to the tanks may be undersized and the propane line to the tank may need to be upsized.. Tankless systems also have some limitations in just how much temperature rise you can get, the colder the input water the lower the temp of the output water.. The faster you draw the lower the rise in temperature and the slower you draw the faster the rise.. I will also note, I do not have to do any "maintenance" on my tank water heater, just fill and go, drain out the water at the end of camping season.. @Gdetrailer, thanks for your reply. As I mentioned, at the time of my original post, I was QUITE new to campers. Now, I’ll say that I haven’t had any more maintenance with my tankless than you have with your tank. Tanks can have buildup (scaling), which ours did (and doing the vinegar cleaning method ended up descaling the rust off the pinhole in the tank and it stated leaking about 2hrs into the descaling process- ha!) — anyway, I haven’t had any issues with our tankless, and no more maintenance than you (winterizing and dewinterizing). As for your other concerns; the installed used the propane line that was already there and it’s been fine. Also, as to limits on heating, sure- the tank has other issues to weigh it against— you only have so much “hot” that you set your tank to “really hot” and mix it in when using it- this poses a significant scaling risk if you have littles running around. The risk of scaling with a tankless is far lower since you’ll likely never set it that hot (if you even can? I’ve never tried). At the end of the day, both options have pros and cons. It’s far better to politely give all the pros and cons and let the reader decide than it is to try and sway them one way or another. Sure, we all have our preferences. But let’s be clear to distinguish between pros, cons, and preferences.1.2KViews0likes0CommentsRe: Suburban IW60 Nautilus Tankless Water Heater?
Bean67 wrote: Hi Alabama yes old post I was so hoping that you would still see it and get back to me so I could find out your thoughts if you had purchased one. Thank you kindly for letting me know that you all love it. I won't regret my purchase then I'm sure anything is better than Navy showers especially considering I dealt with the military for 30 years lol. Did you have your ears professionally installed or do it so? I was thinking of doing my myself but not sure if it's above my skill set. Thank ya again I'm glad now after hearing from ya I purchased this suburban IW60 on demand it should be a good investment. I had i installed by a local RV shop, since at the time we’d only had our (first) camper a handful of weeks or months. At this point I could probably do it myself, but would be cautious regarding the propane line… don’t want to mess that up! If you’re handy and know how to work with the pex tubing and propane lines, it’s probably a day to a weekend job to remove the old and install the new. If you’re not comfortable with either of those, then just play it safe and have it professionally installed!1.2KViews0likes0CommentsRe: Suburban IW60 Nautilus Tankless Water Heater?
Bean67 wrote: Hi Alabama, I to would like more reviews about bv this on demand water heater as I just purchased one but haven't installed it yet. I'm with ya on no reason to co exist continually heat a tank of water when not being used or have plenty for back to back showers. That's why I purchased it and I did locate a few reviews that were good and this unit is way better price than a Truma which RVers talk about as well but its way more pricey. :-) Wow, old thread! :) Anyway, I can honestly say that the Suburban tankless WH has been fantastic. I think we settled in 107F for our particular setup. Even a partial flow (maybe slightly less than “half on?”) from the kitchen faucet will kick on the heater. Love it!1.2KViews0likes0CommentsRe: Suburban IW60 Nautilus Tankless Water Heater?
ScottG- can you link the reviews you’ve found? I haven’t found any! To everyone trying to convince me rather than provide useful information: - it’s less about 30min showers than it is about two things: 1) tank maintenance 2) the fact that we DONT need hot water that often and see no reason to be continually heating it. Also, if our family of five does come back from a full day of hiking and all WANT to take back to back showers, we can. Most likely some will go to the bathhouse and some will use the camper. Given that the girard, sub tank, and sub tankless are all comparable, I’m looking at all three... FWIW, There are a few people on Facebook that I’ve spoken with who have the sub tankless and have had no complaints about it... but I like to cast a wide net for opinions. :)1.2KViews0likes0CommentsRe: Suburban IW60 Nautilus Tankless Water Heater?
great points, thanks. We plan to be using primarily full hookup sites, don't plan to boondock very often and when we do, maybe only one or two days at a time tops (perhaps while on a long trip). These less expensive tankless are LP only, which we are certainly aware regarding LP-only systems.236Views0likes0CommentsSuburban IW60 Nautilus Tankless Water Heater?
We currently have a 10gal Suburban Tank model that has a leak.... It seems the Girard, the Suburban tankless, and a replacement 10gal Suburban tank heater are all priced fairly comparably to each other (the tank being the cheapest but not by a massive amount). I've looked at Girard... The Truma and the Precision are way out of our budget range, unfortunately. Then I found that Suburban has a tankless, but I haven't seen many reviews on it. I noticed that the Suburban claims to come on at 0.5gpm, whereas the girard needs a higher 0.9gpm. I've also noticed the Girard is around 40kBTU and the suburban is over 55kBTU.. But still, I don't find many reviews or youtube videos about the Suburban. Does anyone have any practical thoughts about the Suburban tankless? thanks! ..dane7.6KViews0likes20CommentsRe: Using Dryer's NEMA 14-30 outlet for RV shore power
Learjet wrote: sounds like you are on the right track, just remember that you will need to be able to turn the power off to connect and disconnect....sounds like the outlet will be below the panel...so that should make it easy. Ohhhh, I *had* forgotten about that. Yes, easy enough to just post a big placard that says "STOP! Flip breaker off before plugging/unplugging!" .... It would be kind of nice though if there was a drop-down cover at acted like a switch. Lift the cover to insert- power cut. Lower cover, power on. Lift cover to remove plug, power cut. But until then, a big red stop sign placard hanging on the breaker box should be fine. My kids would probably love to make it for me, too. :) ..dane762Views0likes0CommentsRe: Using Dryer's NEMA 14-30 outlet for RV shore power
wnjj wrote: From what I gather, Siemens and Square D is a Ford/Chevy thing for some. Use whatever your panel requires as there are different styles. Pull an existing breaker and take it with you to be sure. Ahhhh, okay. Thanks @wnjj. I have the seimens on order. once I actually get in there in the next couple of days/weeks I'll have a look and see what brands are in there and if the siemens fits/works or not.. Might be a few days before I get back to it while I wait for outlet and stuff to arrive...761Views0likes0CommentsRe: Using Dryer's NEMA 14-30 outlet for RV shore power
sayoung wrote: Please don't use anything made by Siemens , its junk from my experience with their breakers/panels. Oh, really? I had not heard this. Hmm. Okay. Well then I'll go the approach of replacing 4x 15's and/or 20's with tandems, and then get a double-50 as was recommended by others.. local hardware stores carry Square-D which I know many people often recommend.. thanks!762Views0likes0CommentsRe: Using Dryer's NEMA 14-30 outlet for RV shore power
Gdetrailer wrote: As far as the OPs setup, the only issue I see with the double breakers is many boxes which do accept those breakers do not have enough ground and Neutral buss bar connections. This may require doubling up on the ground and Neutral wires on the buss bars. Some electrical inspectors may be OK with that and some may not. Checked.. PLENTY of open neutral connections on both panels... :) thanks!761Views0likes0Comments
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