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Here's a link to some interesting data and facts about Covid.
Covid Cribsheet....

It's interesting to look at the mortality rates (all deaths) - one chart goes back to 1943 - the other chart goes back to 1900. So far Covid has not produced the spike in death rates one would assume.
For whatever reason many people all over the world accept a very controlled narrative and actually embrace restrictions and forced vaccinations. No doubt there will be folks in this forum attacking the information in the above link.

Look at the comments in this forum - practically every thread discusses Covid implications rather than Recreational Vehicles in Mexico. I suspect there are wonderful opportunities to travel in Mexico now - but an irrational neurosis that makes people unduly fearful and too willing to submit to restrictions.

According to the Drs. and scientists, not people in an rv forum,the efficacy does decrease over time. I have seen 6 or 8 months as a possibility. A booster shot would probably be required. These professionals think that an annual shot may be required. If that is what it takes to stay healthy what is the big deal. We get an annual flu shot. Being as this is a Forum on Rv ing in Mexico this chart shows mortality rates.
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

This thread will probably be closed. The Mod is probably getting g a lot of posts that have to be deleted.

What does fully vaccinated really mean? So you have had the two shots, does that mean you are fully vaccinated for only 3 to 6 months? It has been stated that after 3 months most Covid vaccines begin to lose their effectiveness. After 6 months its time for another one. With a 99 percent survival rate why is everyone freaking out about Covid. Now are we expected to get vaccinated every 6 months till we eventially die?

Come on people, think, what is really going on here?

Vaccine developers and manufacturers have had protection from tort claims since the late 80's. https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation/about/index.html

Playaboy wrote:
The FDA doesn't normally approve a vaccine until it has been tested for a minimum of 5 years. Sometimes longer. They know the Science by the time the drug is released to the public. The FDA changed the decades old Standards for the "Emergency" release

...part of the difference was: "at-risk manufacturing"...... that the manufacturer of the various Covid vaccines could afford to take a risk ($billions in Government money was thrown at the research). The assumption was: manufacturers would scale up manufacturing almost before clinical trials were started (they barely even waited for Phase 3 to start) and (maybe!) no chance of approval LOL! Imagine? Because there was almost zero risk to the vaccine manufacturer. No vaccine manufacturer/pharma company would ever take a risk like that under normal "times".

Essentially, all the right, um, "stuff" happened to allow such a monumental and rapid approval, and scaled-up manufacture with stockpiles amassed way ahead of emergency approval.

....looks like my "Canadian election postponed opening of US land crossing for Canadians" hypothesis is dead. Land border remains tightly closed to non US nationals indefinitely.

On a new front, it has been widely reported in the press recently that a "new" White House air travel initiative is in the works for deployment sometime before November 21st. This will allow nationals from 33 countries (including China) to fly into the US for leisure travel. Also, it appears that the US will be loosening the restrictive allowed vaccine list for fully-vaccinated in-coming travelers from said countries, to include AstraZeneca and others....lets see how this goes.

Mexico News Daily: here-->

" There are thousands of PHD's in the US of which most work in private institutions." Very true, but arguing against the narrative invites ridicule and cancellation.
If you do some due diligence and investigate for yourself you'll hear from plenty of Physicians, PHD's, and experts in virology who disagree with the Covid and vaccination narrative. These folks have been effectively silenced by the media - which is indistinguishable from the government.
What is going on has very little to do with science.

There are thousands of PHD's in the US of which most work in private institutions.
You make it sound like all are government employees - they're not.

Secondly, it would be foolish to overlook the fact that science is progressing at a furious pace.
Adhering to old world process and procedures may be reassuring, but could be ignorant and mistaken.

Who's has the smartest people with PHD's? USA, Canada, Israel, Britian, Mexico, China, Russia? Who do you believe and TRUST? If these PHD's work for a government,especially the ones with decades of bureaucratic experience, I would be leary. Covid policies is all over the place around the world and all over the place in the USA.

Who do I listen too? My doctor.

The FDA doesn't normally approve a vaccine until it has been tested for a minimum of 5 years. Sometimes longer. They know the Science by the time the drug is released to the public. The FDA changed the decades old Standards for the "Emergency" release. We have billions of guinea pigs for the Scientists to eventually learn the science.

My prediction is when we look back 5 years from now, we will have learned that none of our mitigation efforts be they lockdowns, travel restrictions, masks, vaccines stopped this virus.

We just destroyed lives, livelihoods, and freedoms"

We all want to believe things are getting better, more back to normal. I believe lives will be more restrictive in the USA or Canada. The government PHD's will discover the FUKU variant. It will evade the current vaccines. Borders will close and strict lockdowns will be imposed again.

When that comes, I will be right where I want to be in warm Mexico. Are you where you want to be when the lockdowns come?

moisheh wrote:
Almot in one of my searches a reporter made the comment that sources told him the part about Mexico. Could be a rumor but makes sense. Fir some reason the wh does not want to upset amlo.

Sounds like they are making a political decision rather than "following the science".