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Jul 22, 2020

Mexican Banks

I wanted to post a comment about the Monex scandal but it seems threads are easily closed, some without the opportunity to even comment. I think it only fair that Mexican banks, like banks in any o...
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I think it only fair that Mexican banks, like banks in any o...","body@stringLength":"1779","rawBody":"I wanted to post a comment about the Monex scandal but it seems threads are easily closed, some without the opportunity to even comment.

I think it only fair that Mexican banks, like banks in any other country, get a fair shake.

Monex is one of many banks in Mexico. It has many divisions; traditional banking, stock investing, and investment funds both high and low risk. One doesn't necessarily reflect the values of the other. Remember the Madoff Ponzi scheme, that is pretty much what happened to Monex. A person on the inside, who is now being sued and taken to court, will likely, someday, somehow, be punished. There are thousands of investors who are still seeking their money ten years later from Madoff. Some will never see more than 60% of their principal investment.

I have had several bank accounts in Mexico and one for more than 30 years. I used it for my business. I have never had any issues with Mexican banks. In fact, we have our investments in several Mexican banks although they are low risk investments.

Here is a link to the webpage the Karger brothers have established. In one of their articles they mention a Ponzi scheme.

Banco Monex Fraud

Please check the articles at their website. It is only fair to do some research before condemning all Mexican banks as in the previous thread. High risk investments have their issues. Let's not lump all Mexican banks into the same group.

I am hoping the Kargers find relief soon. The issue in Mexico is impunity. It's real but remember the major banking fiasco of 2008-2009, how many walked away with complete impunity?","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2020-07-22T16:12:45.000-07:00","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"tags":{"__typename":"TagConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":2,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3389158_1"},"latestVersion":null,"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":2169},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","canonicalUrl":null,"seoTitle":null,"seoDescription":null,"isEscalated":null,"placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"archivalData":null,"customFields":[],"body":"I wanted to post a comment about the Monex scandal but it seems threads are easily closed, some without the opportunity to even comment.

I think it only fair that Mexican banks, like banks in any other country, get a fair shake.

Monex is one of many banks in Mexico. It has many divisions; traditional banking, stock investing, and investment funds both high and low risk. One doesn't necessarily reflect the values of the other. Remember the Madoff Ponzi scheme, that is pretty much what happened to Monex. A person on the inside, who is now being sued and taken to court, will likely, someday, somehow, be punished. There are thousands of investors who are still seeking their money ten years later from Madoff. Some will never see more than 60% of their principal investment.

I have had several bank accounts in Mexico and one for more than 30 years. I used it for my business. I have never had any issues with Mexican banks. In fact, we have our investments in several Mexican banks although they are low risk investments.

Here is a link to the webpage the Karger brothers have established. In one of their articles they mention a Ponzi scheme.

Banco Monex Fraud

Please check the articles at their website. It is only fair to do some research before condemning all Mexican banks as in the previous thread. High risk investments have their issues. Let's not lump all Mexican banks into the same group.

I am hoping the Kargers find relief soon. The issue in Mexico is impunity. It's real but remember the major banking fiasco of 2008-2009, how many walked away with complete impunity?"},"Conversation:conversation:3389158":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:3389158","solved":false,"topic":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3389158"},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2020-07-31T09:55:49.000-07:00","lastPostTime":"2020-07-31T09:55:49.000-07:00","unreadReplyCount":5,"isSubscribed":false},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3389158":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3389158","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"Revision:revision:3389158_1":{"__typename":"Revision","id":"revision:3389158_1","lastEditTime":"2020-07-22T16:12:45.000-07:00"},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3389159":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","id":"message:3389159","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3389158"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:315961"},"revisionNum":1,"uid":3389159,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:BucketlistDestinationsforum-board"},"subject":"Re: Mexican Banks","readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3389159"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3389158"},"body":"I read the articles, did more research and learned more. To me, it still boils down to living in a country different than the one you were raised in. Being aware of what could possibly happen and trying to know as much as possible before making important decisions.

We moved to Mexico 3 years ago, permanently, and are so glad we did. With the help of people like qtla9111 we have had our questions answered about things like banking, handling money, buying and selling vehicles, and so far have done fine. It's a learning curve.

What happened to the people, couple, persons who wrote the Op/Ed piece was horrible. All of it.

It would be great if we could have a real discussion about this topic without getting, \"over the top,\" meaning too political, too anti-Mexico, name calling and not being reasonable human beings.

I, personally would love to learn more about how to best conduct business here in Mexico and live safely here as we all want to do.

Remember, this is a forum about RV travel in Mexico and South America, so we do have to keep the topic in mind.
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We moved to Mexico 3 years ago, permanently, and are so glad we did. With the help of people like qtla9111 we have had our questions answered about things like banking, handling money, buying and selling vehicles, and so far have done fine. It's a learning curve.

What happened to the people, couple, persons who wrote the Op/Ed piece was horrible. All of it.

It would be great if we could have a real discussion about this topic without getting, \"over the top,\" meaning too political, too anti-Mexico, name calling and not being reasonable human beings.

I, personally would love to learn more about how to best conduct business here in Mexico and live safely here as we all want to do.

Remember, this is a forum about RV travel in Mexico and South America, so we do have to keep the topic in mind.
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