More ULSD info
I have this information from a petroleum industry executive. The Pemex diesel is LSD. In January it is supposed to be ULSD. I was also told that Arco now has some stations in Sonora that have ULSD. 2 ...
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I am trying my darndest to pass on information that states there are no guarantees.
Similarly it is Mr. White who attempts to convince others that forecasting problems by using low sulfur rather than ULSD has caused few if any problems according to his studies.
Pardon my skepticism. This is like arriving at at an equation with a few numbers and symbols missing.
In short it is long on assumption and missing verifiable data.
Mountaineer42 your entry states fact -- you have traveled to Mazatlan with no issues and have talked to similar folks who have had no issues.
But to extend that fact into conjecture leads into the wilderness of guessing. What Moishesh stated was ULSD was not being the norm on the mainland.
A person would have to stretch both facts and even then the buttons do not line up. It's as simple as that.
I wish Mr White would give forth Companies Other Than Pemex NAMES. I submitted the API and Moodys articles WHO UNDERWRITES LOANS TO PEMEX. Facts, links, proof. Couple that with Xavier and Ernesto's statements to me we have a problem with some of this information.
PEMEX is in trouble production wise and money wise. The revisions to the energy act last year is a testament to this
And ME, meaning, my body, walked the length of the Salamanca refinery and noted how silent the plant was. Vessels and heaters that normally clang and roar were barely whimpering. Columns that emit heat via uninsulated pipe flanges were not as hot as they should be. Two of six 600 pound pitch boilers were offline. For minutes there was no truck at the loading platform. My eyes do not lie. And my eyes do not think the new refinery upgrades were camouflaged from my eyes.
I ME MYSELF passed by the fence to the Salina Cruz refinacion a little over a year ago. There was 10 to 12 acres of freshly graded earth next to the Crude Unit but not a scrap of concrete forms. You do not build a refinery on dirt. You build it on 24" of poured six sack cement and then let it cure for a year before erecting one damned vessel. I returned to read official PEMEX utter poppycock about the change in plans to produce ULSD to Premium ULSG gasoline. Do I look like a fool? The people I was riding with got upset at the three hours the diversion took.
The bottom line is this and you can take it to the bank...
With PEMEX purchasing tankerloads of diesel from US and Japanese refineries it's anyone's guess what the franchises are pumping into people's tanks.
It's pure common sense to think that the west coast refinery is concentrating on supplying number six fuel oil to power electrical plants. The further the diesel travels from the source, the more likely it is that foreign diesel may be mixed in. With a pair of 10 x 50 field glasses I confirmed the tanker Nandeska Maru was tied to the Rosarito off shore terminal a few months ago. A huge vessel. Why was a Japanese tanker moored there? To supply ULSD. Wait! Being an ex refinery employee I know for a fact not conjecture that Autumn is the time frame for annual refinery turnarounds. They do it like a chain in the Bay Area, Chevron, Exxon, Shell, then Tesoro.
So hold your horses with assumptions and pronouncements please :)
Foreign energy companies are marching into Mexico like an invasion. Establishing proprietary tank farms at ports. They are going to pump or carry their own brand to distribute it. Mexico it is assumed will allow enough foreign gasoline to ease the burden on the refineries. With ULSD there is no choice there is a mandate. With city areas under siege from smog regular gasoline must be ultra low sulfur. That is also part of a federal mandate.
We need more testaments like Mountaineer42 that says RVs have traveled through an area with no problems and a lot less hyperbole about the country having all ULSD.
It's all about worry free tourism.
Similarly it is Mr. White who attempts to convince others that forecasting problems by using low sulfur rather than ULSD has caused few if any problems according to his studies.
Pardon my skepticism. This is like arriving at at an equation with a few numbers and symbols missing.
In short it is long on assumption and missing verifiable data.
Mountaineer42 your entry states fact -- you have traveled to Mazatlan with no issues and have talked to similar folks who have had no issues.
But to extend that fact into conjecture leads into the wilderness of guessing. What Moishesh stated was ULSD was not being the norm on the mainland.
A person would have to stretch both facts and even then the buttons do not line up. It's as simple as that.
I wish Mr White would give forth Companies Other Than Pemex NAMES. I submitted the API and Moodys articles WHO UNDERWRITES LOANS TO PEMEX. Facts, links, proof. Couple that with Xavier and Ernesto's statements to me we have a problem with some of this information.
PEMEX is in trouble production wise and money wise. The revisions to the energy act last year is a testament to this
And ME, meaning, my body, walked the length of the Salamanca refinery and noted how silent the plant was. Vessels and heaters that normally clang and roar were barely whimpering. Columns that emit heat via uninsulated pipe flanges were not as hot as they should be. Two of six 600 pound pitch boilers were offline. For minutes there was no truck at the loading platform. My eyes do not lie. And my eyes do not think the new refinery upgrades were camouflaged from my eyes.
I ME MYSELF passed by the fence to the Salina Cruz refinacion a little over a year ago. There was 10 to 12 acres of freshly graded earth next to the Crude Unit but not a scrap of concrete forms. You do not build a refinery on dirt. You build it on 24" of poured six sack cement and then let it cure for a year before erecting one damned vessel. I returned to read official PEMEX utter poppycock about the change in plans to produce ULSD to Premium ULSG gasoline. Do I look like a fool? The people I was riding with got upset at the three hours the diversion took.
The bottom line is this and you can take it to the bank...
With PEMEX purchasing tankerloads of diesel from US and Japanese refineries it's anyone's guess what the franchises are pumping into people's tanks.
It's pure common sense to think that the west coast refinery is concentrating on supplying number six fuel oil to power electrical plants. The further the diesel travels from the source, the more likely it is that foreign diesel may be mixed in. With a pair of 10 x 50 field glasses I confirmed the tanker Nandeska Maru was tied to the Rosarito off shore terminal a few months ago. A huge vessel. Why was a Japanese tanker moored there? To supply ULSD. Wait! Being an ex refinery employee I know for a fact not conjecture that Autumn is the time frame for annual refinery turnarounds. They do it like a chain in the Bay Area, Chevron, Exxon, Shell, then Tesoro.
So hold your horses with assumptions and pronouncements please :)
Foreign energy companies are marching into Mexico like an invasion. Establishing proprietary tank farms at ports. They are going to pump or carry their own brand to distribute it. Mexico it is assumed will allow enough foreign gasoline to ease the burden on the refineries. With ULSD there is no choice there is a mandate. With city areas under siege from smog regular gasoline must be ultra low sulfur. That is also part of a federal mandate.
We need more testaments like Mountaineer42 that says RVs have traveled through an area with no problems and a lot less hyperbole about the country having all ULSD.
It's all about worry free tourism.
