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- CA_TravelerExplorer IIIAnother step: Yes I can drag and drop a route. But it's so limited, must be on the visible map since the map doesn't scroll and can't zoom and therefore can't select a detailed location stop.
So the drag and drop that would be helpful is drag and drop the stops in the Route Planner. Drag and drop a stop to change the stop order. Add a new detailed location stop and drag and drop it in the list.
Instead you have to move a stop one click at a time. Not a big deal with a few stops but with my 65 stop route last summer - painful.
Or did I miss something? - MM49Explorer
PawPaw_n_Gram wrote:
Turtle-Toad wrote:
My main complaint with S&T is that you cannot print just one days directions and map when you have a multi-day trip planned out. A lot of us on Laptop GPS world and the S&T blog have been asking for that function for years.
I started on something when my Garmin GPS couldn't handle the number of stops in a multi-day trip .GPX file.
After I get the route worked out - I save the master route.
Then break my trip down into a series of one-day trips. Save one for each day's travel.
Print / export those individually.
And if I decide on a change in route - I can do that on the individual day if I'm still planning the same start or end points.
A bit more cumbersome - but it works.
You can download them into avtive track memory, then save them. It will load the trackes into the base map. This way you will not voilate your point count. Just use the same name format as your active track file. Rename the track in the monitor in mapquest and save/download. I can save 8000 to 10,000 miles of tracks.
MM49 - PawPaw_n_GramExplorer
Turtle-Toad wrote:
My main complaint with S&T is that you cannot print just one days directions and map when you have a multi-day trip planned out. A lot of us on Laptop GPS world and the S&T blog have been asking for that function for years.
I started on something when my Garmin GPS couldn't handle the number of stops in a multi-day trip .GPX file.
After I get the route worked out - I save the master route.
Then break my trip down into a series of one-day trips. Save one for each day's travel.
Print / export those individually.
And if I decide on a change in route - I can do that on the individual day if I'm still planning the same start or end points.
A bit more cumbersome - but it works. - MM49ExplorerCartografia
briansue wrote:
You would be much better off getting Cartofina. It is a private label mapbase only offered in mexico. It has topo, but no routing. It is open fourm software.
Searched for Cartofina online and came up with nothing. Can you please provide how to find it? Is it a permanent download or must you be online? Does it detail all town and city streets accurately for GPS?
We need route maps and very rarely need topos. Does it show all the streets - just not able to create routes?
Where do we learn more? Thanks for the tip.
www.cartografiagps.com/mape32
Cartografia Demo
I use a copy of this software all the time. There is so much growth in Mexico that a lot of the new highways are not on it.
MM49 - CA_TravelerExplorer IIIOK, my post wasn't clear. Let's start over one step at a time.
I'd like to add a label to stop 5. The only option I see is to add a text box to the map. And from the help text it has this limitation:
"When you create a text box, you can add your own comments and labels to the map. Unlike other drawing shapes, the size of a text box does not change as you zoom in and out of the map."
I'd like to add the "label/text box" to stop 5.
Apparently this is not possible - what have I missed?
ie The label goes with the stop, not the map. Delete the stop and it's gone and of course I want it to scale when the map scales like other points on the MS map . - briansueExplorer
You would be much better off getting Cartofina. It is a private label mapbase only offered in mexico. It has topo, but no routing. It is open fourm software.
Searched for Cartofina online and came up with nothing. Can you please provide how to find it? Is it a permanent download or must you be online? Does it detail all town and city streets accurately for GPS?
We need route maps and very rarely need topos. Does it show all the streets - just not able to create routes?
Where do we learn more? Thanks for the tip. - briansueExplorer
My main complaint with S&T is that you cannot print just one days directions and map when you have a multi-day trip planned out. A lot of us on Laptop GPS world and the S&T blog have been asking for that function for years.
TT - Mike,
Has Larry ever responded to the requests - or has Marvin chimed in?
I think there is a way but it involves keystrokes and clicks. We do not plan entire routes - we do mostly point to point planning - not always daily but not much more. What I would do would be to put in the LAT LON of the waypoints and Copy & Paste to a new map and save it as that part of the route - making partial routes instead of an entire route. BUT I wish they would make it easier to enter Lat Lon and that you could just Copy & Paste some simple way to Route Planner. Mostly we only print maps when in a town we want a paper map in my pocket for roaming around town. When people ask how to get from one place to another I create a route and either make a picture or sent an .est email they can use - providing they have 2013.
I have a very extensive tutorial showing all kinds of stuff about S&T and I had posted it years ago on the Tiffin Tech Website but I have been doing updates over the years and the Tiffin version is now obsolete - though not a bad basic beginning. Anyway, I do not have a website or way to share my tutorial but if someone else wants to put it out there I am more than willing to provide it. Then maybe as time goes by others will post what they have learned and it will be an evolving thing where people can learn more. Laptop GPS World does have a link to my old tutorial on Tiffin but no new one I am aware of. My tutorial has many lessons and is quite long but if users do one thing at a time and learn how to do it and do some practicing it gets easier to figure out how to do more and more stuff with S&T - just not always exactly the way we would like it to do.
EDIT - forgot - Mike - can you explain Drag & Drop? - Turtle-ToadExplorerMy main complaint with S&T is that you cannot print just one days directions and map when you have a multi-day trip planned out. A lot of us on Laptop GPS world and the S&T blog have been asking for that function for years.
As for 'drag and drop', I do it all the time when changing my route. It's a lot easier than adding a location to the bottom of the list and then moving it up to the spot where you want to add it.
My second complaint is that at least on my laptop in my coach, I can't hear the directions. Luckily I now have my wife to repeat the messages to me since the laptop is setting on her side of the dash.
On edit: Gee, I didn't know that the word I used in place of 'complaint' was a no no. I guess we're lucky this isn't a dog breeding forum. - MM49ExplorerYou would be much better off getting Cartofina. It is a private label mapbase only offered in mexico. It has topo, but no routing. It is open fourm software.
MM49 - briansueExplorerI am really not sure what it is you would like to do about stops in S&T. You can add and name stops at any time and you can label them. I do not know how you would Drag & Drop as I do not know what you would Drag & Drop?
We blog and put our routes on our blog - see the blog link in our posts on this forum.
We blog point to point of our daily trips - with stops along the way - if we plan any stops. We also use stops to force S&T to take the route we want to take. Easy to do. Click the exact spot on the map and ADD AS STOP. You can name any stop by using push pins. You can name any route by doing a SAVE AS and naming the route and saving in a folder.
You can create an entire multi stop route and you GPS will pick up where you are - wherever you are.
When you say you want to show the whole route without showing all the stop numbers I am not sure what you mean but if you use the CREATE GPS TRAIL in the GPS pane you will see a blue line on the map of your entire route and you can remove the stops and the blue line will stay until you remove it. You can then post this to your blog or wherever you want.
S&T has a great many features and it can take a long time to learn how to use them all. There are places where you can learn more. It may not do exactly what you want it to do in exactly the way you want it to do but you can go on the S&T website and/or blog and make suggestions - or go on the Laptop GPS World S&T forum and search for answers or ask questions. Ask here and I might be able to tell you - or other forum members may be able to help. I have been using S&T for 7 years and freely admit I still have not learned how to do many of the things that can be done with it. Because we do not know how does not mean it can't be done.
No - you cannot put a laptop on your dashboard or in your pocket. You can however plan a route in S&T and then move it to your Garmin to use in the Garmin. What's the point? It is so much easier to plan and create and save routes in S&T than a Garmin and then you can move them to Garmin as you need them. Yes - there is a learning curve - that does not mean it can't be done.
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