Don't get me wrong, this is not something I look forward to but, I thought all US and Canadian citizens would have their passports scanned entering and exiting the respective countries starting July 1 2014.Just crossed last night for a quickie shopping trip and I saw no change at all.Does anyone know if implementation of this regulation has been postponed or cancelled?Seems that to scan all passports upon entry and exit at our shared land border crossing of our respective countries would require additional new technology and equipment as well as work rule changers for the toll takers in each country as they now would be charged with the responsibility of scanning passports of all exiting travelers.

My understanding is that the new entry / exit records were based on data sharing. There will be no scanning by anyone upon exiting say the US, certainly not someone in a toll both, but rather Canada will share the entry information. The issue for a lot of folks here is that there's no 'forgetting' the exact date you left anymore. Since the Federal government has already stated they will share that information with the Provinces, this opens up the whole issue of health insurance coverage while out of country. There's also a range of other potential issues this kind of record-keeping could bring up.

JaxDad wrote:My understanding is that the new entry / exit records were based on data sharing. There will be no scanning by anyone upon exiting say the US, certainly not someone in a toll both, but rather Canada will share the entry information. The issue for a lot of folks here is that there's no 'forgetting' the exact date you left anymore. Since the Federal government has already stated they will share that information with the Provinces, this opens up the whole issue of health insurance coverage while out of country. There's also a range of other potential issues this kind of record-keeping could bring up.That's my understanding also. It not just health care that will be the concern, if you spend 183 or more days in the US you may be subject to income tax by the IRS; same with the CRA in Canada for 183 days or more.

US customs agents always look at us with disbelief when we arrive at the port of entry without 3 years food pack ratted into our rig. And for Canada Border Services to see that no, we didn't empty the shelves at the factory brand outlet in Vegas again this year either. I thought the scan was to see if our story was the same as last year :)

That's for sure. Thank's for the clarification. After some digging I did find that the entry/exit records all based all on data sharing as you indicated.While this make some practical sense the idea of international governments tracking and sharing this info is creepy and scary.Can we trust government bureaucrats and government employees to be sharp enough about data security and privacy?I don't know

gitane59 wrote: Can we trust government bureaucrats and government employees to be sharp enough about data security and privacy?I don't knowof course we can trust the IRS, NSA, ATF, etc. they have proved that lately.bumpy

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gitane59
Explorer III
Jul 16, 2014
That's for sure. Thank's for the clarification. After some digging I did find that the entry/exit records all based all on data sharing as you indicated.

While this make some practical sense the idea of international governments tracking and sharing this info is creepy and scary.
Can we trust government bureaucrats and government employees to be sharp enough about data security and privacy?

I don't know
noteven
Explorer III
Jul 16, 2014
US customs agents always look at us with disbelief when we arrive at the port of entry without 3 years food pack ratted into our rig.

And for Canada Border Services to see that no, we didn't empty the shelves at the factory brand outlet in Vegas again this year either.

I thought the scan was to see if our story was the same as last year :)
Community Alumni
Jul 16, 2014
JaxDad wrote:
My understanding is that the new entry / exit records were based on data sharing.

There will be no scanning by anyone upon exiting say the US, certainly not someone in a toll both, but rather Canada will share the entry information.

The issue for a lot of folks here is that there's no 'forgetting' the exact date you left anymore. Since the Federal government has already stated they will share that information with the Provinces, this opens up the whole issue of health insurance coverage while out of country.

There's also a range of other potential issues this kind of record-keeping could bring up.

That's my understanding also. It not just health care that will be the concern, if you spend 183 or more days in the US you may be subject to income tax by the IRS; same with the CRA in Canada for 183 days or more.
JaxDad
Explorer III
Jul 16, 2014
My understanding is that the new entry / exit records were based on data sharing.

There will be no scanning by anyone upon exiting say the US, certainly not someone in a toll both, but rather Canada will share the entry information.

The issue for a lot of folks here is that there's no 'forgetting' the exact date you left anymore. Since the Federal government has already stated they will share that information with the Provinces, this opens up the whole issue of health insurance coverage while out of country.

There's also a range of other potential issues this kind of record-keeping could bring up.

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