Boondocking Article

rkortes wrote:

amandasgramma wrote:

ed6713 wrote:

amandasgramma wrote:

Sparky87k5 wrote:

amandasgramma wrote:
So let's do some calculating. I'll guess the average park space is $30. a night......100 spaces in the RV park. That's $3000 a night if full. Times 30 days in the month -- that's $90,000. a month. Times 12 months ---$1,080,000 a year. Let's say you're only full half the time or half that year....that's still $5.4 million a year.

NOT $5.4 million but $540,000, still a good income.

You're right......type-o!!!!!! giggle giggle.........and that's why I retired from being a budget analyst!!!!!!! thank you

The $540k is the GROSS income. Well above what the owners will NET after all expenses are paid. I would be surprised if they netted 10% after income tax.

Well, sweetie, you're right --- however that's still more than I make. So what makes them (and apparently you) think that I should take all MY income and pay them to sleep in MY rig that I paid for?????? There's plenty of campers out there to keep RV parks and campgrounds in business. What causes most that I've known of to not have enough campers is 1) attitude and 2) too costly.

ed6713's point was that these campground owners are small business owners just trying to make a buck to live on. I don't really see them as "1 percenters" as your math attempted to illustrate.

and I think both of you are missing my point....no, I don't think they're the 1 percenters. But I DO think they have a lot of gall trying to prevent me from boondocking .....doing what we can afford, to help line their pocket. Now -- I've said enough on this -- i don't want to get kicked off here......

amandasgramma wrote:

ed6713 wrote:

amandasgramma wrote:

Sparky87k5 wrote:

amandasgramma wrote:
So let's do some calculating. I'll guess the average park space is $30. a night......100 spaces in the RV park. That's $3000 a night if full. Times 30 days in the month -- that's $90,000. a month. Times 12 months ---$1,080,000 a year. Let's say you're only full half the time or half that year....that's still $5.4 million a year.

NOT $5.4 million but $540,000, still a good income.

You're right......type-o!!!!!! giggle giggle.........and that's why I retired from being a budget analyst!!!!!!! thank you

The $540k is the GROSS income. Well above what the owners will NET after all expenses are paid. I would be surprised if they netted 10% after income tax.

Well, sweetie, you're right --- however that's still more than I make. So what makes them (and apparently you) think that I should take all MY income and pay them to sleep in MY rig that I paid for?????? There's plenty of campers out there to keep RV parks and campgrounds in business. What causes most that I've known of to not have enough campers is 1) attitude and 2) too costly.

ed6713's point was that these campground owners are small business owners just trying to make a buck to live on. I don't really see them as "1 percenters" as your math attempted to illustrate.

When I see these great pics of campers way out by themselves, I can't help think about the guy on "Survivorman", where he sets up his camera, walks a half day while his camera is filming him, and then he walks all the way back to pick up his camera. :B

We've never stayed in a commercial campground with our camper. Have only drycamped with it.

Sometimes we overnight in Yukon gov't campgrounds (no services) but usually boondock down some backroad. Didn't make any modifications to the camper, other than a memory foam on the bed and Torklift steps, and a black vent cover over the bed to help block the 24/7 daylight in May/June/July. It's a 'small' 8' unit with everything we need.

ed6713 wrote:

amandasgramma wrote:

Sparky87k5 wrote:

amandasgramma wrote:
So let's do some calculating. I'll guess the average park space is $30. a night......100 spaces in the RV park. That's $3000 a night if full. Times 30 days in the month -- that's $90,000. a month. Times 12 months ---$1,080,000 a year. Let's say you're only full half the time or half that year....that's still $5.4 million a year.

NOT $5.4 million but $540,000, still a good income.

You're right......type-o!!!!!! giggle giggle.........and that's why I retired from being a budget analyst!!!!!!! thank you

The $540k is the GROSS income. Well above what the owners will NET after all expenses are paid. I would be surprised if they netted 10% after income tax.

Well, sweetie, you're right --- however that's still more than I make. So what makes them (and apparently you) think that I should take all MY income and pay them to sleep in MY rig that I paid for?????? There's plenty of campers out there to keep RV parks and campgrounds in business. What causes most that I've known of to not have enough campers is 1) attitude and 2) too costly.

amandasgramma wrote:

Sparky87k5 wrote:

amandasgramma wrote:
So let's do some calculating. I'll guess the average park space is $30. a night......100 spaces in the RV park. That's $3000 a night if full. Times 30 days in the month -- that's $90,000. a month. Times 12 months ---$1,080,000 a year. Let's say you're only full half the time or half that year....that's still $5.4 million a year.

NOT $5.4 million but $540,000, still a good income.

You're right......type-o!!!!!! giggle giggle.........and that's why I retired from being a budget analyst!!!!!!! thank you

The $540k is the GROSS income. Well above what the owners will NET after all expenses are paid. I would be surprised if they netted 10% after income tax.

Seems like an article about RV park owners not happy with this guy promoting Boondocking.

I agree. Do know in some places it is about the campgrounds wanting to make sure they get their cut, but some places about problems they have had with less desireables.

But why does the op think the a TC needs to have any mods done to boondock? Think just about every camper be it TC, TT, or FW is more than capable of boondocking for severals days in a row. Mine, all stock, and one of the smallest hard sides on the market does just fine boondocking for several days.


Even in the east on can get away from it all - just much harder to find the spots.

Sparky87k5 wrote:

amandasgramma wrote:
So let's do some calculating. I'll guess the average park space is $30. a night......100 spaces in the RV park. That's $3000 a night if full. Times 30 days in the month -- that's $90,000. a month. Times 12 months ---$1,080,000 a year. Let's say you're only full half the time or half that year....that's still $5.4 million a year.

NOT $5.4 million but $540,000, still a good income.

You're right......type-o!!!!!! giggle giggle.........and that's why I retired from being a budget analyst!!!!!!! thank you

I like this link, which shows public land availability by state. Notice for example that CA has over 14,500,000 acres of BLM land, where you are free to boondock. Add the NFS land at over 20,500,000 which also has a lot of boondocking available.

Tiger4x4RV, thanks for the link.

Wayne