Boondocking safety-Are you armed?

OK well as someone who has carried, Twice I have assisted others, only drew once, and did not discharge. And three times for defense at home. ( I was in the service and stationed in areas that made the neighborhood a little rough, south Miami and St Louis)

kerrlakeRoo wrote:

LowRyter wrote:
wow. just wow.

no forum goes unmolested from gun advocates.

Wow, just wow,,,
No forum can go without some attempting to take the rights of others.

OK, that's it.

Except for God given rights, there are no inherent "rights".

What do you think Jesus would say about your "right" to own something with no other purpose than to KILL other people ???

Government defined "rights" can be re-defined. Kind of like your "right" to own slaves.

I guess some of us might have the best of both worlds: Those of you who have lethal force around you at all times provide just enough negative incentive such that the bad guys hold off a bit on bothering any of us .... because they don't know which of us may, or may not, be carrying.

P.S. Seriously though - we place our trust elsewhere in living a killing-free and lawyer-free life. :)

memtb wrote:

toedtoes wrote:

beemerphile1 wrote:

toedtoes wrote:


No one has said you can't have a gun. Just some folks don't see the need to carry one everywhere they go.

Unfortunately if you carry but don't carry everywhere and all the time, odds are when you need it you won't have it.

And that's the crux of the conversation. Some folks believe that they will need the gun at some point. Others don't. Until there is an actual calculation of the odds that having a gun will protect you, then it's all just supposition.

It really surprises me that they've calculated the odds of winning the lottery, being struck by lightning, and so on, but they have never calculated the odds of needing a gun to protect yourself. (Actually let me rephrase that - they've never calculated the odds that having a gun would have made a positive outcome in any situation.)

Personally, I see the odds of my needing a gun to be well below 1:1000000000. Others see it more like 1:500. Guess we'll know when we die who was right.

I guess then... I've already won the lottery! Though... winning this lottery is not a pleasant experience. But....living through the experience by giving someone else the opportunity of spending a little more more time with friends and family,makes me glad that I had insurance!

Well, you're the first person I've been acquainted with who has said a gun made a positive difference to a situation. I've never been acquainted with someone who has won the lottery either. Again, it falls down to the odds and how you feel about them. In the end, it's do what you're comfortable with and respect others. I never insisted my dad to remove the guns from his house when I visited - likewise he never insisted on bringing a gun into my house. We respected each other in that. My sibling, on the other hand, insisted that her right to carry a gun overrode my right not to have a gun in my house...

rjxj wrote:
They never seem to like the idea but my best recommendation for those who dont like guns is to post it on the front of their homes and RV's "No guns in here". You know, sort of like those very safe gun free zones.

You say that's your "best recommendation". Recommendation for what? What purpose does that serve other than to continue to break down civilized discussion.

They never seem to like the idea but my best recommendation for those who dont like guns is to post it on the front of their homes and RV's "No guns in here". You know, sort of like those very safe gun free zones.

toedtoes wrote:

beemerphile1 wrote:

toedtoes wrote:


No one has said you can't have a gun. Just some folks don't see the need to carry one everywhere they go.

Unfortunately if you carry but don't carry everywhere and all the time, odds are when you need it you won't have it.

And that's the crux of the conversation. Some folks believe that they will need the gun at some point. Others don't. Until there is an actual calculation of the odds that having a gun will protect you, then it's all just supposition.

It really surprises me that they've calculated the odds of winning the lottery, being struck by lightning, and so on, but they have never calculated the odds of needing a gun to protect yourself. (Actually let me rephrase that - they've never calculated the odds that having a gun would have made a positive outcome in any situation.)

Personally, I see the odds of my needing a gun to be well below 1:1000000000. Others see it more like 1:500. Guess we'll know when we die who was right.

I guess then... I've already won the lottery! Though... winning this lottery is not a pleasant experience. But....living through the experience by giving someone else the opportunity of spending a little more more time with friends and family,makes me glad that I had insurance!

beemerphile1 wrote:

toedtoes wrote:


No one has said you can't have a gun. Just some folks don't see the need to carry one everywhere they go.

Unfortunately if you carry but don't carry everywhere and all the time, odds are when you need it you won't have it.

And that's the crux of the conversation. Some folks believe that they will need the gun at some point. Others don't. Until there is an actual calculation of the odds that having a gun will protect you, then it's all just supposition.

It really surprises me that they've calculated the odds of winning the lottery, being struck by lightning, and so on, but they have never calculated the odds of needing a gun to protect yourself. (Actually let me rephrase that - they've never calculated the odds that having a gun would have made a positive outcome in any situation.)

Personally, I see the odds of my needing a gun to be well below 1:1000000000. Others see it more like 1:500. Guess we'll know when we die who was right.

toedtoes wrote:


No one has said you can't have a gun. Just some folks don't see the need to carry one everywhere they go.

Unfortunately if you carry but don't carry everywhere and all the time, odds are when you need it you won't have it.

Do you travel with a spare tire?
Did you NEED it?
If you normally don't, why carry it?

No different, it's just comforting to know you have it.