Canadian Snowbird Future

Statistics really are wonderful aren’t they? Go look up what the working class on Nantucket pays in rent because they can’t afford to own but still need a roof over their heads. Who the do you think keeps everything running for the people that own your statistical multi-million dollar homes? I’m not getting into a p****** contest with someone who thinks they can sit 1000’s of miles away and quote stats from the Internet. It’s becoming obvious why Canadians would rather keep the border closed!

Dave

magicbus wrote:

What would be your "cohesive national response"? The needs and resources of people who, like you, reside in Nantucket and Martha's Vineyard are vastly different than a 7-11 clerk in Alta, Oklahoma.

You might try living here before you start making statements like that. You are clearly convinced that everyone on the Islands must be wealthy, when the reality is that is far from true of the year round resident population. On top of that many of our workers work seasonally (80 hours a week in season) and therefore still haven’t been able to collect their unemployment “bonus”.

As for a cohesive plan, the governors of most of the New England states plus NY and NJ agreed early on to work this problem in concert. Have you looked at a Covid map of densely populated areas recently? So far the open slowly but surely seems to be working far better than “hey everybody, the heck with the virus, let’s get back to work.” I guess time will tell.

Dave

The median household income in Nantucket county is $83,000 compared to the US median income of $59,000. The average value of an owner occupied home is $1,030,000. In 2017, the last year I could find a statistic for, the average selling price of a home was $2,150,000. Cry me a river about how poor Nantucket County is.
And as soon as any region of the US surpasses the deaths from or confirmed cases of COVID19 per 100,000 residents that NY, NJ, CT and MA have, you might have an argument they handled it better. But as of right now, there is a long, long way to go before that becomes true. I would argue the current situation shows those other states handled COVID in a much better way. Their peaks are coming when there is a much greater supply of PPE and a greater understanding of the therapeutics that are showing to be successful. Out of the 134,320 deaths currently attributed to COVID those 4 states account for 60,188. That's 44.8% of all deaths, while at the same time those 4 states make up only about 12.1% of the US Population. Strange way to measure success.

What would be your "cohesive national response"? The needs and resources of people who, like you, reside in Nantucket and Martha's Vineyard are vastly different than a 7-11 clerk in Alta, Oklahoma.

You might try living here before you start making statements like that. You are clearly convinced that everyone on the Islands must be wealthy, when the reality is that is far from true of the year round resident population. On top of that many of our workers work seasonally (80 hours a week in season) and therefore still haven’t been able to collect their unemployment “bonus”.

As for a cohesive plan, the governors of most of the New England states plus NY and NJ agreed early on to work this problem in concert. Have you looked at a Covid map of densely populated areas recently? So far the open slowly but surely seems to be working far better than “hey everybody, the heck with the virus, let’s get back to work.” I guess time will tell.

Dave

moisheh wrote:
In kino the supers are closed to customers. They have a small window and pass the groceries to you.Beaches are closed. There is a curfew. Mexico cannot handle the number of infected people. The health system is a disaster. No leadership from the leaders. It will be years before the economy will recover. It is a shame S many ondustries were ready to move their Chinese plants to Mexico.

Maybe that will be the saving grace after a vaccine

magicbus wrote:
The whole thing smells weird because it is weird. We live on an island 30 miles off the US New England coast. After a dozen cases the locals went super careful and shut down most everything and for 5 weeks we had zero cases. Then the tourists started, many not being the least bit careful or respectful of others, and now 5 cases in a week. We’re not worried personally because we are vigilant, but we know people who just believe “most” don’t get too sick so they are less careful. Not having a cohesive national response is troubling, we’re just glad the northeast US is mostly on the same page.

Dave

What would be your "cohesive national response"? The needs and resources of people who, like you, reside in Nantucket and Martha's Vineyard are vastly different than a 7-11 clerk in Alta, Oklahoma. How long can we require an "essential" grocery store worker making less than $20.00 an hour ($800.00 a week) keep working while a worker who made less gets to stay home an collect the national average of $350.00 a week state unemployment plus the $600.00 federal suppliment for a total of $950.00? Is that at all fair to the guy working 40 hours, taking on risk by having contact with the public only to make $150.00 a week less than the guy siiting on the sofa, safely at home?
The great cohesive national plan has to work for everyone, not just those who have the resources and lack of responsibilities to just wait it out.

In kino the supers are closed to customers. They have a small window and pass the groceries to you.Beaches are closed. There is a curfew. Mexico cannot handle the number of infected people. The health system is a disaster. No leadership from the leaders. It will be years before the economy will recover. It is a shame S many ondustries were ready to move their Chinese plants to Mexico.

Just got word a good friend of mine is in hospital in Mexico on a ventilator. They were isolating in their RV and both are infected somehow. This has pretty much convinced me to stay home until there is a vaccine. RV or not, you still need groceries.

The whole thing smells weird because it is weird. We live on an island 30 miles off the US New England coast. After a dozen cases the locals went super careful and shut down most everything and for 5 weeks we had zero cases. Then the tourists started, many not being the least bit careful or respectful of others, and now 5 cases in a week. We’re not worried personally because we are vigilant, but we know people who just believe “most” don’t get too sick so they are less careful. Not having a cohesive national response is troubling, we’re just glad the northeast US is mostly on the same page.

Dave

I think the scary thing right now is lack of empty hospital beds and ICU care. I’m not sure we are in tune with what’s happening there. We converse fairly frequently with our neighbours there and it’s pretty much “meh”. It no big deal. They seem content with the goverment response and some are saying it’s way overdone. Nothing to see here Is there something that we aren’t seeing? At what point does it become serious? The whole thing smells weird.

They started selling middle seats a week after i booked a flight. Right now it looks like I will cancel, but I will wait til October to do that. If it suddenly goes into a lull, I may, but if that is the case I may drive. Not holding my breath.

I cant help but think something has to give. Mexico is also out of control https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/coronavirus/virus-still-out-of-control/