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- joebedfordNomad IIYou can get beans in any grocery in the RGV.
- John_JoeyExplorerIf you have a Facebook account you might want to look at this link about the Vegan food prep. There is a number that you can call which I'm thinking will get you where you ultimately want to be.
Winter Texan Clicky - bjbearExplorer
Bipeflier wrote:
Not to hijack this thread, just trying to educate myself. What I've read about vegans, they don't consume anything from animals because of "exploitation" and treatment. True? If that is one of the reasons can vegans have pets? In my view, keeping a pet "captive" would fall under the rules?
Please don't take this to any extremes, just wondering.
Don't want to start a real discussion/argument here, but since you asked........
Veganism can be interpreted differently by many and is really defined by a person's beliefs and values. I choose to apply it as follows.
I do not eat meat, because I choose not to kill any animal so that I can eat. There are other options for me.
I do not eat dairy because I cannot support the way commercial dairy products are produced. Female cows are kept often in deplorable conditions and perpetually pregnant. Their calf's are separated from them immediately. Females enter the milk production and males are kept for short periods, often in small pens before being killed for veal. A horrible life in my opinion.
I do not eat eggs not because I think it is wrong to collect and use eggs, but because most hens are kept in very small cages and life a miserable life. Even "free range" chickens live in very poor conditions. Worst of all, is the treatment of the male chicks which are destroyed (sometimes very cruelly) because only female chicks have value.
Other things are not so clear for me:
Pets I am OK with because it is a symbiotic relationship. We both benefit from it. My dog has a great life and is very happy.
Honey I am also mostly OK with because it too is a symbiotic relationship where both Bees and humans benefit. For one thing, they are critical to fruit and vegetable production.
I am still trying to figure out my feelings on shellfish like oysters. I am not sure they are sentient.
P.S. For my beliefs about Bees and shellfish, many dyed in the wool vegans would drum me out of the "group"!!
These are just my own values and I do not expect others to agree with them. I respect everyone's right to eat what they want to. If you enjoy steak, go for it. Also, I do "cheat" every once in awhile as there is nothing in this world better than a pepperoni pizza!! Thank goodness most beer is Vegan!!! - BipeflierExplorerNot to hijack this thread, just trying to educate myself. What I've read about vegans, they don't consume anything from animals because of "exploitation" and treatment. True? If that is one of the reasons can vegans have pets? In my view, keeping a pet "captive" would fall under the rules?
Please don't take this to any extremes, just wondering. - ependydadExplorerI had no idea mushrooms were a vegan controversy!
- WILDEBILL308Explorer II
ronfisherman wrote:
Teacher's Pet wrote:
WILDEBILL308 wrote:
Kroger.
Bill
There are now Kroger stores in the valley? If so that's good news.
I thought the same thing. Did a location search on Kroger site. Closest one is 267 miles north of McAllen. HEB is the best.
I may be wrong I thought we shopped at a Kroger in Pharr. But you are right HEB owns the valley.
Bill - DonPExplorerSprouts on North 10 has lots of health and specialty foods
- bjbearExplorerThanks all for the info.
- toedtoesExplorer III
westernrvparkowner wrote:
toedtoes wrote:
Fruit and most vegetables require bees for pollination, are they all off limits as well? Earthworms and other insects are a necessary part of breaking down the silage other organic matter into usable nutriments for those edible plants. How is using bees, beetles and earthworms as slave labor ethical?westernrvparkowner wrote:
Maybe I have fallen behind the curve, but isn't "Vegan" food that isn't meat or dairy? If so, doesn't any grocery store have vegetables for sale?
There is much more available these days for vegans than just vegetables. There are vegan foods available that provide protein, etc., for a healthy well-balanced diet. Lots a soy-based choices. And so on.
And vegan actually means foods that are not processed with any animal participation, so that means no honey or mushrooms.
Gone are the days of the pale skinny hippie vegan. ;)
That's the difficult part of being vegan - at some point, you have make a line that you won't cross. Some folks will include mushrooms others won't as so on.
For me, I'm vegetarian. I just do what makes sense to me and don't do what offends my personal sensibilities and ethics, and I don't worry about how others see it. It's a personal choice as to how far you take it. - rockylarsonExplorer
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