Thanks for the continued replies. A creek site does sound nice to listen to the water can be relaxing. We will be in the crazy side of the smokies in pigeon forge at Mill creek resort in November and March. That is reason asking more about the North Carolina side for next summer. If anybody has any pics of the site they stayed in while there it would be appricated. On another note we just returned from the rownaend area and stayed at Little river campground it is very tight on the spaces saw people campers so close that their a ning was touching the other campers roof and the sewer hookup was right at your picnic table way to close for me