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Almot
Explorer III
Aug 30, 2013

Medical insurance Mex, no questionnaries

Following up recent thread.
TIS was mentioned as one of "good ones", as opposed to Manulife with nasty questionnaires and a history of non-paying. So I took a close look and compared the cheapest plan by TIS called A La Carte and a plan by Square Mouth.

SM is not an insurer, just a search engine. I dialed in 56 and 66 years in both links, 2 months trip, destination Mex with US included for SM (and no destination in TIS as it doesn't ask about it), 100,000 coverage.

TIS wants you to fill a questionnaire, no matter what age. 5 or 6 pages. If you are healthy but didn't have a complete physical in the last 2 years, they charge extra. If you are healthy but had any testing for heart condition in the last 5 years (I suspect ECG or stress testing on treadmill are such tests) - they consider it a "treatment" and charge extra. God forbid having any real illnesses, this will cost a lot more.

In SM with filters "coverage from 100,000" and "price from low to high" the top one came Trawick International, a primary plan. Cost slightly higher than TIS with no illnesses - and I don't see any questionnaire. Try entering any illness or testing for heart condition in TIS and it becomes a lot more expensive. Trawick cost only depends on trip duration, deductible and age (to change deductible, click on Policy Details -> Medical -> Options).

Again, Trawick is a primary plan which means they will pick the bill first and the province will pay the rest, OR - correct me if I'm wrong - if there is no "rest", the province will reimburse the deductible as the only expense that you had to pay. So you can choose a high deductible, the province will pay anyway.

TIS is a secondary plan, i.e. the province pick the bill first, and the rest is covered by TIS if there is any "rest", but you will always pay the deductible.

No affiliation with either provider, just nice to see a plan without questionnaire. Again, I compared "any country" by TIS against "destination Mex, including USA" by SM/Trawick.

18 Replies

  • Almot's avatar
    Almot
    Explorer III
    Sea Dog wrote:
    I would not consider anything less than
    one million per person.

    The post was about Mex coverage including the US, i.e. vacationing in Mex, and getting treatment in the US only if Mex hospital, together with insurer, after the initial stabilizing or without it, would decide that they can't do this, and would also decide that air ambulance to Canada is too risky.

    In either scenario, it would be solely emergency treatment, with any rehabilitation etc done in Canada as soon as the patient is able to return to Canada.

    In the US, what emergency treatment - other than organ transplant - you would expect to cost over $1,000,000?
  • Almot's avatar
    Almot
    Explorer III
    joebedford wrote:
    $100,000 coverage - not enough.

    Did you read my last post where I said that this limit can be changed, and did you try and click on Squaremuoth link in the first post? The coverage can be from 50,000 to 1,000,000.
  • Manulife is one of the worst. However, I am covered with Manulife through my wife who is still employed,(365 day travel insurance coverage, no deductible) but we don't need any questionnaires of pre-existing condition stuff. That is in place since her work can take her anywhere in the world and it covers her all year whether she is at work or not (pretty nice huh?). That all changes in 6 years. We plan to use our OAS (social security) to finance travel coverage.
  • joebedford wrote:
    $100,000 coverage - not enough.


    That is for sure.
    I would not consider anything less than
    one million per person.
  • Almot wrote:


    The only drawback that I noticed is that they only cover 10,000 for pre-existing, and anything that you had in the last 3 years they consider pre-existing.


    Did you not read any of the reviews posted by previous customers? Trawick gets 5 star ratings from people who didn't have to file a claim but terrible reviews from people who actually did have to try to make a claim. Doesn't sound like a company I would like to waste my money on.
  • Almot's avatar
    Almot
    Explorer III
    robatthelake wrote:
    They are All secondary plans! That is why Your Province has restrictions on time ..Out of Province!

    Yes, they are - usually - secondary, that's why this plan looks interesting. The policy says:
    Safe Travels International
    Trawick International

    Medical
    Emergency Medical
    $100,000 per person
    Primary coverage

    The amount of coverage can be changed, and deductible too. In case of a secondary you always pay the deductible, so if it's high and you have a claim, then you pay high. In case of a primary the deductible is paid by the secondary provider.

    There is no questionnaire - something not very common.

    The only drawback that I noticed is that they only cover 10,000 for pre-existing, and anything that you had in the last 3 years they consider pre-existing.
  • They are All secondary plans! That is why Your Province has restrictions on time ..Out of Province!

    If something happens and You require Medical Assistance Your "Travel Insurance Provider" heads straight to Your Provincial Medical Plan for Payment of whatever is available in Your Account. After taking the maximum allowed They then pay the difference, or negotiate a settlement with the Medical Service Provider.

    If You are in the USA there are sometimes some horrific charges that would literally Bankrupt the Average Canadian. Your Travel Insurance Provider is not quite as thin skinned as the rest of Us though so They Play Hardball and get those Bills taken care of.

    If You happen to be in some other Country such as Mexico where Medical Costs are Lower than at Home those Same Travel Insurers are ..Collecting from The Provincial Plan and Paying a Portion , again a negotiated amount to the Clinic or Doctors involved.

    Either way the Insurance Company wins , as the Premiums paid by those who never file a claim always exceed the amounts paid out !

    That's just business I suppose but doesn't it seem to You that maybe it's time to start doing a bit of Self Insurance instead of paying all these ridiculous premiums?

    Start by raising Your deductible to reduce the premium and stop running to the Doctor for every little sniffle!

    Insurance is certainly necessary but sometimes , common sense needs to prevail.

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