We listened to their sales pitch. Seems the more you say no, the cheaper it gets. Started out at some outrageous price and by the time we were through it was down to about $8000. It's probably a good program it just didn't fit our life style. They were the nicest people you ever met until they realized we were not going to buy. At that point they really turned on the heat and the pitch got hard core. When they finally realized we were not going to buy, it got pretty testy. Hey, you can't win them all sales guy.