Sad state of our National Parks-II

JRscooby wrote:
It looks like I missed some posts while thinking or typing. I don't do either very fast, but try to do the first first.

tomman58 wrote:
This thread is so far off base it needs to end. All those self righteous schemers and dreamers need to go to their homeboy sites and rant there.

Politics is not discussed in polite.... can't be discussed politely deal. If you never listen or talk to anybody that does not agree with you how can you defend your ideas? Michael Moore says is no better than Rush says, but if you can't hear both without being offended by either I hope for the sake of country you or somebody educates your kids better. Apathy is bad enough.

BillyBob Jim wrote:

westernrvparkowner wrote:
They quickly learn that not working and becoming receivers of benefits is the smart move.

You have millions upon millions of moochers who learned the above long ago, generations of them actually. Welfare, Disability, SSI, etc. Fraud runs rampant in those programs. It did not take Socialism nor this "this is not political" thread to get us down that road.

Is there fraud in the welfare system? Sure. Disability system? Just as sure. But what percentage of the dollars spent on these systems lost do to fraud? 10%? 20%? I have no idea, just trumping up numbers. Now lets look at DOD, and assume the same percentage of fraud. Betting the % would be higher at DOD, just because the defence contractor is likely to be closer in education level to a banked than somebody collecting welfare, and bankers have beat me out of more money than homeless.
While back, there was talk about a warplane the Air Force didn't need, Army, Navy, and Marines did not want, but congress voted to buy it anyway. Bet those millions could of improved a few parks...

How has a bank beaten you, personally, out of a single dollar? If you make a mistake and overdraw your checking account you may very well run up significant fees, but that isn't the bank beating you, that is you beating you. Same thing with credit card fees and interest, nobody forces people to have credit cards and the terms and fees are disclosed before any are incurred. Just because you are like most of us and don't put in the time to learn and understand the terms, the reponsibility doesn't shift off you to the bank. The banks don't beat people out of money, the people beat themselves out of it.