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- Well good, but no cause to celebrate. Whats the effective difference between a national monument and a park. The sign out front? Maybe they will add a campground now. So far as I know the newest real park is Bears Ears and I'm not sure if it's a park or monument or one of the other many designations that they have.
And actually:
"Donald Trump has signed a sweeping new public lands bill that protects 1.3m acres of wilderness and creates monuments to US history that has been overlooked, including the African American experience in the civil war and the fight for civil rights.
Years in the crafting, the measure will designate 367 miles of new scenic rivers and 2,600 miles of new national trails. It protects nearly 500,000 acres in California alone, and enlarges both Death Valley and Joshua Tree national parks. And it reauthorizes a crucial funding mechanism for land and water conservation that had lapsed."
Article - National Park is a permanent designation for public use and enjoyment.
National Monument can be reverted back -- and worst case, private use and profit. - Great. That means that we have visited 43 National Parks. I love White Sands in late fall when the few trees there have there fall color.
rv2go wrote:
Great. That means that we have visited 43 National Parks. I love White Sands in late fall when the few trees there have there fall color.
Yup one added item in the bucket list.rv2go wrote:
Great. That means that we have visited 43 National Parks. I love White Sands in late fall when the few trees there have there fall color.
I'm impressed. You've been to American Somoa NP, Channel Islands NP, Gates of the Arctic NP, Kobuk Valley NP, Lake Clark NP and Wrangell NP.
Quite a world traveller and serious hiker-Backpacker!rv2go wrote:
Great. That means that we have visited 43 National Parks. I love White Sands in late fall when the few trees there have there fall color.
Impressive! And only 19 left to go to visit and enjoy.Yosemite Sam1 wrote:
National Park is a permanent designation for public use and enjoyment.
National Monument can be reverted back -- and worst case, private use and profit.
Hmmm ... I always considered National Monuments as places for mostly "day trips" where one can visit ... but not camp/stay overnight
and,
National Parks as places that also include campsites/camgrounds so visitors could camp for one or more days.
Am I wrong? i.e. Do some National Monuments include camping areas?pnichols wrote:
Yosemite Sam1 wrote:
National Park is a permanent designation for public use and enjoyment.
National Monument can be reverted back -- and worst case, private use and profit.
Hmmm ... I always considered National Monuments as places for mostly "day trips" where one can visit ... but not camp/stay overnight
and,
National Parks as places that also include campsites/camgrounds so visitors could camp for one or more days.
Am I wrong? i.e. Do some National Monuments include camping areas?
Just looked into White Sands and it seems it already have campsites before the conversion.
Yeah, National Monuments usually have small areas. This one is huge.- Well, we've done a bit of camping in NP ... Bkpack>>Tent>>Pk-up>>Van>>TrkCmpr
Acadia, Arches, Badlands, Big Bend, Biscayne, Bryce, Canyonlands, Capital Reef, Crater Lake, Death Valley, Everglades, Glacier, Grand Canyon N & S Rim, Grand Tetons, Great Sand Dunes, Great Smokey Mountains, Haleakala, Hawaii Volcanoes, Hot Springs, Joshua Tree, Kings Canyon, Lassen, Mesa Verde, Mount Rainier, Cascades, Olympic, Petrified Forest, Redwoods, Rocky Mountains, Saguaro, Sequoia, Shenandoah, T. Roosevelt, White Sands, Yellowstone, Yosemite, Zion.
Not to mention national monuments and state parks. Alaska remains on the 'to see' list. :) - Yeah, National Monuments usually have small areas. This one is huge.
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I don't think that's true out west anyway. Grand Staircase is huge, Bears Ears is big, and so are Basin and Range, canyon of the Ancients and Dinosaur.
But others are tiny like Clinton Castle.
I'm not sure there is anything that distinguishes one from the other, just what they get called and maybe the fact that like Monument size can be reduced or even eliminated like Papago-Saguaro National Monument. And others have vanished into history.
