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Apr 15, 2015

Electric over hydraulic actuator

Looking for anyone who has installed an electric over hydraulic actuator... I am finishing up my disc brake conversion but have a question about the actuator wiring.. I have a Hydrastar actuator wi...
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It depends on the resistance- it will draw from the higher voltage source until the resistance in the circuit gets high enough the voltage drops to equal the battery voltage.
I believe you're over thinking this, and that the instructions are not very good- they spec a "25 to 40 amp" feed, and recommend using #12 wire. 25 amp would call for #10, and 40 amp would call for #8 minimum, purely on load carrying capacity (ignoring voltage drop).
I wouldn't sweat it- just make sure the factory circuit is in good shape, the plug is clean, and all connection tight.

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I have a Hydrastar actuator with 4 wires ---

yellow wire goes to cold side of breakaway switch
white to ground
blue to brake controller
and black is 12v power for the electric pump

Now, instructions require a 25-40amp 12v source for the black wire... my F350, however, is only fused at 20amps for the trailer plug. I talked with the folks at etrailer and they were surprised to have never heard this issue before.... especially considering I have a very common truck.

Anyone used this set-up without a problem? I am guessing my only other options would be to replace the truck wiring or add a second 12v wire fused higher and run back to my trailer....","customFields":[]},"Conversation:conversation:1667989":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:1667989","solved":false,"topic":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1667989"},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2015-04-19T18:04:51.000-07:00","lastPostTime":"2015-04-19T18:04:51.000-07:00","unreadReplyCount":14,"isSubscribed":false},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1667989":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1667989","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"Revision:revision:1667989_1":{"__typename":"Revision","id":"revision:1667989_1","lastEditTime":"2015-04-14T21:01:29.000-07:00"},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1667999":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","id":"message:1667999","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1667989"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:254739"},"revisionNum":1,"uid":1667999,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:DIYMaintenance"},"subject":"Re: Electric over hydraulic actuator","readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1667999"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1667989"},"body":"It depends on the resistance- it will draw from the higher voltage source until the resistance in the circuit gets high enough the voltage drops to equal the battery voltage.
I believe you're over thinking this, and that the instructions are not very good- they spec a \"25 to 40 amp\" feed, and recommend using #12 wire. 25 amp would call for #10, and 40 amp would call for #8 minimum, purely on load carrying capacity (ignoring voltage drop).
I wouldn't sweat it- just make sure the factory circuit is in good shape, the plug is clean, and all connection tight.","body@stringLength":"571","rawBody":"It depends on the resistance- it will draw from the higher voltage source until the resistance in the circuit gets high enough the voltage drops to equal the battery voltage.
I believe you're over thinking this, and that the instructions are not very good- they spec a \"25 to 40 amp\" feed, and recommend using #12 wire. 25 amp would call for #10, and 40 amp would call for #8 minimum, purely on load carrying capacity (ignoring voltage drop).
I wouldn't sweat it- just make sure the factory circuit is in good shape, the plug is clean, and all connection 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