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AlwaysDreaming's avatar
Oct 01, 2017

Inverter Installation, Hurricane Style?

I just bought a Thor Chateau 22FT RV. It does not have an inverter (DC to AC power). Therefore, I don’t have AC Power while cruising unless I fire up the generator. I would like to watch TV, use Medical Equipment, power computers etc., make a (K-Cup) Coffee while cruising, all low power AC requirements, without using the noisy Onan on-board gas AC generator. Also, when shore power is not available, I need very low AC power capability overnight for a CPAP (medical equipment) and I don’t want to use the gas generator.

2 House batteries (1 comes standard) with an inverter solves these problems. Quiet AC Power. 1 12V House Battery and a 1000W Pine sine wave Inverter will cost me $400 to $500.

Here is a DIY installation I am looking for comments and opinions on.
Permanently mount the Inverter and connect DC to the House Battery Bank (which is attached to the engine alternator (70 AMP DC)). Back feed (plug the converter output into a AC outlet) the AC to one of the AC Outlets using a modified AC cord called a suicide cord because it has a male plug on both ends. Before connecting, switch OFF the Main AC Breaker, switch OFF the Converter Breaker, switch OFF the Air Conditioner Breaker, switch OFF the Microwave Breaker. This gives me low power AC throughout the coach.

Does anybody see an electrical problem with this, other than it is not idiot proof? That is, you have to remember to switch OFF the respective AC Breakers. I would rather not blow up the coach to find out I overlooked something obvious.

This will give me about 10 amps of AC power without the on-board AC generator (the on-board generator pumps out 30 amps). While cruising, the Ford Triton V10 Alternator pumps out 70 amps DC so I have enough DC power to convert to AC power. When “Dry Camping” I can run the CPAP 8 hours since it only draws 25 watts, without drawing down the batteries too much.

This is essentially what I do at home when hurricanes blow through and we lose power to the house. I have a 7000 watt 240V gas generator. I have a suicide cord and back feed through the electric dryer plug. Of course, I switch off the Main breaker from the transmission line to the house, and the AC, stove, water heater, etc. since I only have 30 amps of 240VAC. It is enough to survive in South Florida. Hence, the post title of Hurricane Style. Maybe I should have called it suicide style?
  • K Charles wrote:
    You may not get arrested until you kill someone but I believe it's against the law almost everywhere.


    I'm sure you are talking about the house set up not the RV setup.
    So, do you think the RV set up I described would work?
  • Suicide cords are called suicide cords for good reason.

    I would never recommend the use of one, and very strongly urge you to reconfigure your household generator setup to not use one. If you don't want to install an actual transfer switch of some sort (and there are approved ones that are not too expensive, relatively speaking--probably the simplest and cheapest available for some electric panels is a little lever gizmo that goes between the main breaker and the breaker for the generator power inlet and physically prevents both from being turned on simultaneously), then connect things directly to your generator or inverter with an extension cord.

    You may wish to verify the power requirement of your coffee maker. Many of the Keurig machines require more than 1000 watts, though the total energy usage is not too great because it's of limited duration. It's still a rather hard load to power from a relatively modest inverter setup. The other things you list should not pose any trouble.

    You may wish to have some outlets in the trailer be permanently and only on the inverter, and run it to power them even when connected to shore power or using the generator. So long as you aren't using any high power devices there, the converter will be able to supply power to the inverter and also charge the battery etc. It's not the most electrically efficient approach, but it's simple and easy to maintain and works decently well in practice for a smallish inverter.
  • Turn off the converter and plug the main RV power cord into the inverter.

    Otherwise you or someone else is at high risk at the RV. And high risk and illegal at home.

    Of course we both know that since it's you nothing will every go wrong. :h

    DESTROY ALL SUICIDE CORDS AND BE SAFE.
  • You may not get arrested until you kill someone but I believe it's against the law almost everywhere.
  • Ivylog's avatar
    Ivylog
    Explorer III
    Boy, you are brave to even mention a suicide plug as it's obvious you are not smart enough to remember to keep things separate or not touch the exposed lugs. I do much the same as you with my 10K generator in my DP which I store at home.
    In that small a rig I'd probably just run an extension cord to the various items you want to power letting you put the inverter close to the batteries. Maybe you can remember to not trip on the cord or you could route a cord permanently to the back along the baseboards or underneath the TT.

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