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ahamade
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Mar 11, 2014

Magnum MSH3012M Inverter Install

Hi guys, I am working on installing an inverter into my RV and was wondering what the proper way to hook up the AC power.

My RV has 30 Amp service. It currently has a WFCO WF-8955PEC Power Center. This contains both my AC & DC circuits. My new inverter supports up to 3000 Watts & can draw from shore power & my batteries at the same time.

I have the DC side figured out as thats pretty simple. The AC side has me totally stumped. The documentation states I should install a 60 Amp single pole breaker for the AC Input to the inverter & a 60 Amp breaker for the AC Output from the inverter. My WFCO Power center can not support a breaker that large so I can't use that as the input breaker panel.

Does anyone know of a solution for my AC input to the inverter? I want my converter to work when plugged into shore power or when on generator, so should I split the input power cables that are going to my WFCO Power center to also go to the input of my inverter? This way when I am on shore/gen power both the converter and the inverter get power? This would allow me to keep my AC, Water Heater, & Fridge on the AC switch panel built into the WFCO Power center.

As for AC Output from the inverter, I would install a sub panel that has a 60 Amp Breaker for the inverter then 3 20amp breakers for Microwave, GFCI, & Receptacles. Does anyone know of a sub panel that is made for RV's that would support what I am trying to do?

Any help on this would be appreciated as the entire design is a work in progress.

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  • GordonThree's avatar
    GordonThree
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    Mar 12, 2014
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    I had tried the same, the reverse polarity fuse was wired in series with the DC lead coming in from the battery to the rest of the fuse block... no fuse, no power.

    I had my panel open for wiring work, so it took no extra time to just disconnect the converter. your mileage may vary and wiring surely varies from one trailer to another.
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    ahamade
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    Mar 12, 2014
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    Thanks guys for the info... if I pull the reverse polarity fuses then I dont think my DC will work at all. These fuses blew once and I had no DC power (lights would not turn on) until I replaced those 2 fuses.

    I really appreciate everyone's help!
  • GordonThree's avatar
    GordonThree
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    Mar 12, 2014
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    ahamade wrote:
    Ahh ok got ya, so I would take the output from my auto switch box and put that as the 120V into my inverter then the output from my inverter would go into my current WFCO AC/DC panel. I would then disconnect the DC portion of my WFCO panel by say leaving the Converter breaker in the off position. That sound about right?


    the breaker controls the AC portion. that's probably good enough, but you will have some parasitic load from the DC portion, which connects to the FUSE panel, not the circuit breaker panel.

    It is an optional procedure, I do not think the fan draws much current... if you're not comfortable, I'd recommend leaving it closed up. Otherwise, you open the panel to where you can get at the converter circuit board, and you unplug (and tape up) the DC charge wire, as if you were removing the converter to replace it. It will be the wire going from the circuit board to the fuse block.
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    ahamade
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    Ahh ok got ya, so I would take the output from my auto switch box and put that as the 120V into my inverter then the output from my inverter would go into my current WFCO AC/DC panel. I would then disconnect the DC portion of my WFCO panel by say leaving the Converter breaker in the off position. That sound about right?
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    GordonThree
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    Mar 12, 2014
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    another benefit for unplugging the wfco, you won't have to listen to its fan speeding up and slowing down every time you turn something 12v on or off. the magnum's fans don't come on until you're running at least 100A dc through it.

    just remember to disconnect the wfco from both the AC and DC parts of your power box... even with the AC disconnected, my wfco would power itself up from the DC fuse panel and the fan grinding away, ugh!
  • pianotuna's avatar
    pianotuna
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    Mar 12, 2014
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    Hi ahamade,

    No, that is not correct because the Magnum will be providing for the 12 volt needs when you are on shore power, up to 125 amps @ 12 volts (nominal).

    The converter can be used as a back up, or even at the same time as the Magnum. But the Magnum blows a wfco converter pretty much right out of the water as far as speed of recharging, and as an added benefit has temperature compensation.

    ahamade wrote:
    If I take the converter out of the equation by cutting its power then when I am plugged into shore power I do not get the benefit of running my 12 volt appliances off of shore power as they will always be running off of the battery. Is that not correct?
  • 2oldman's avatar
    2oldman
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    Mar 12, 2014
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    ahamade wrote:
    If I take the converter out of the equation by cutting its power then when I am plugged into shore power I do not get the benefit of running my 12 volt appliances off of shore power as they will always be running off of the battery.
    That is correct, but your nice new IC will be charging the batteries at the same time. I'm pretty sure it can handle your 12v needs, which is identical to running off a converter.
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    ahamade
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    Mar 12, 2014
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    Hi guys, thanks for the replys! My generator is a 4000K Onan built in generator. If I take the converter out of the equation by cutting its power then when I am plugged into shore power I do not get the benefit of running my 12 volt appliances off of shore power as they will always be running off of the battery. Is that not correct?

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My RV has 30 Amp service. It currently has a WFCO WF-8955PEC Power Center. This contains both my AC & DC circuits. My new inverter supports up to 3000 Watts & can draw from shore power & my batteries at the same time.

I have the DC side figured out as thats pretty simple. The AC side has me totally stumped. The documentation states I should install a 60 Amp single pole breaker for the AC Input to the inverter & a 60 Amp breaker for the AC Output from the inverter. My WFCO Power center can not support a breaker that large so I can't use that as the input breaker panel.

Does anyone know of a solution for my AC input to the inverter? I want my converter to work when plugged into shore power or when on generator, so should I split the input power cables that are going to my WFCO Power center to also go to the input of my inverter? This way when I am on shore/gen power both the converter and the inverter get power? This would allow me to keep my AC, Water Heater, & Fridge on the AC switch panel built into the WFCO Power center.

As for AC Output from the inverter, I would install a sub panel that has a 60 Amp Breaker for the inverter then 3 20amp breakers for Microwave, GFCI, & Receptacles. Does anyone know of a sub panel that is made for RV's that would support what I am trying to do?

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My RV has 30 Amp service. It currently has a WFCO WF-8955PEC Power Center. This contains both my AC & DC circuits. My new inverter supports up to 3000 Watts & can draw from shore power & my batteries at the same time.

I have the DC side figured out as thats pretty simple. The AC side has me totally stumped. The documentation states I should install a 60 Amp single pole breaker for the AC Input to the inverter & a 60 Amp breaker for the AC Output from the inverter. My WFCO Power center can not support a breaker that large so I can't use that as the input breaker panel.

Does anyone know of a solution for my AC input to the inverter? I want my converter to work when plugged into shore power or when on generator, so should I split the input power cables that are going to my WFCO Power center to also go to the input of my inverter? This way when I am on shore/gen power both the converter and the inverter get power? This would allow me to keep my AC, Water Heater, & Fridge on the AC switch panel built into the WFCO Power center.

As for AC Output from the inverter, I would install a sub panel that has a 60 Amp Breaker for the inverter then 3 20amp breakers for Microwave, GFCI, & Receptacles. Does anyone know of a sub panel that is made for RV's that would support what I am trying to do?

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Magnum MSH3012M Inverter Install","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1117954"},"body":"I had tried the same, the reverse polarity fuse was wired in series with the DC lead coming in from the battery to the rest of the fuse block... no fuse, no power.

I had my panel open for wiring work, so it took no extra time to just disconnect the converter. your mileage may vary and wiring surely varies from one trailer to another.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-03-12T08:53:26.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-03-12T08:53:26.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":421},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:DIYMaintenance/message:1117940/message:1117954","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"347","rawBody":"I had tried the same, the reverse polarity fuse was wired in series with the DC lead coming in from the battery to the rest of the fuse block... no fuse, no power.

I had my panel open for wiring work, so it took no extra time to just disconnect the converter. your mileage may vary and wiring surely varies from one trailer to another.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1117954_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1117953":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1117953","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1117953":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:148334"},"id":"message:1117953","revisionNum":1,"uid":1117953,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:DIYMaintenance"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1117940"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1117940"},"subject":"Re: Magnum MSH3012M Inverter Install","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1117953"},"body":"Thanks guys for the info... if I pull the reverse polarity fuses then I dont think my DC will work at all. These fuses blew once and I had no DC power (lights would not turn on) until I replaced those 2 fuses.

I really appreciate everyone's help!","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-03-12T08:43:58.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-03-12T08:43:58.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":421},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:DIYMaintenance/message:1117940/message:1117953","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"258","rawBody":"Thanks guys for the info... if I pull the reverse polarity fuses then I dont think my DC will work at all. These fuses blew once and I had no DC power (lights would not turn on) until I replaced those 2 fuses.

I really appreciate everyone's help!","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1117953_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"Rank:rank:37":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:37","position":25,"name":"Nomad III","color":"333333","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:36953":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:36953","uid":36953,"login":"pianotuna","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2004-12-18T06:52:06.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-1.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:37"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:36953"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1117952":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1117952","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1117952":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:36953"},"id":"message:1117952","revisionNum":1,"uid":1117952,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:DIYMaintenance"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1117940"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1117940"},"subject":"Re: Magnum MSH3012M Inverter Install","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1117952"},"body":"Hi Gordon,

He could just remove the reverse polarity fuses on the wfco and store them.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"89","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-03-12T08:19:28.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-03-12T08:19:28.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":420},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:DIYMaintenance/message:1117940/message:1117952","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"97","rawBody":"Hi Gordon,

He could just remove the reverse polarity fuses on the wfco and store them.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1117952_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1117951":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1117951","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1117951":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:182087"},"id":"message:1117951","revisionNum":1,"uid":1117951,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:DIYMaintenance"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1117940"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1117940"},"subject":"Re: Magnum MSH3012M Inverter Install","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1117951"},"body":"
ahamade wrote:
Ahh ok got ya, so I would take the output from my auto switch box and put that as the 120V into my inverter then the output from my inverter would go into my current WFCO AC/DC panel. I would then disconnect the DC portion of my WFCO panel by say leaving the Converter breaker in the off position. That sound about right?


the breaker controls the AC portion. that's probably good enough, but you will have some parasitic load from the DC portion, which connects to the FUSE panel, not the circuit breaker panel.

It is an optional procedure, I do not think the fan draws much current... if you're not comfortable, I'd recommend leaving it closed up. Otherwise, you open the panel to where you can get at the converter circuit board, and you unplug (and tape up) the DC charge wire, as if you were removing the converter to replace it. It will be the wire going from the circuit board to the fuse block.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-03-12T06:03:31.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-03-12T06:03:31.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":420},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:DIYMaintenance/message:1117940/message:1117951","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"970","rawBody":"
ahamade wrote:
Ahh ok got ya, so I would take the output from my auto switch box and put that as the 120V into my inverter then the output from my inverter would go into my current WFCO AC/DC panel. I would then disconnect the DC portion of my WFCO panel by say leaving the Converter breaker in the off position. That sound about right?


the breaker controls the AC portion. that's probably good enough, but you will have some parasitic load from the DC portion, which connects to the FUSE panel, not the circuit breaker panel.

It is an optional procedure, I do not think the fan draws much current... if you're not comfortable, I'd recommend leaving it closed up. Otherwise, you open the panel to where you can get at the converter circuit board, and you unplug (and tape up) the DC charge wire, as if you were removing the converter to replace it. 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I would then disconnect the DC portion of my WFCO panel by say leaving the Converter breaker in the off position. That sound about right?","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-03-11T23:05:54.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-03-11T23:05:54.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":421},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:DIYMaintenance/message:1117940/message:1117949","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"323","rawBody":"Ahh ok got ya, so I would take the output from my auto switch box and put that as the 120V into my inverter then the output from my inverter would go into my current WFCO AC/DC panel. I would then disconnect the DC portion of my WFCO panel by say leaving the Converter breaker in the off position. That sound about right?","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1117949_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1117948":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1117948","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1117948":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:182087"},"id":"message:1117948","revisionNum":1,"uid":1117948,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:DIYMaintenance"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1117940"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1117940"},"subject":"Re: Magnum MSH3012M Inverter Install","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1117948"},"body":"another benefit for unplugging the wfco, you won't have to listen to its fan speeding up and slowing down every time you turn something 12v on or off. the magnum's fans don't come on until you're running at least 100A dc through it.

just remember to disconnect the wfco from both the AC and DC parts of your power box... even with the AC disconnected, my wfco would power itself up from the DC fuse panel and the fan grinding away, ugh!","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-03-11T20:31:44.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-03-11T20:31:44.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":421},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:DIYMaintenance/message:1117940/message:1117948","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"447","rawBody":"another benefit for unplugging the wfco, you won't have to listen to its fan speeding up and slowing down every time you turn something 12v on or off. the magnum's fans don't come on until you're running at least 100A dc through it.

just remember to disconnect the wfco from both the AC and DC parts of your power box... even with the AC disconnected, my wfco would power itself up from the DC fuse panel and the fan grinding away, ugh!","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1117948_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1117947":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1117947","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1117947":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:36953"},"id":"message:1117947","revisionNum":1,"uid":1117947,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:DIYMaintenance"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1117940"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1117940"},"subject":"Re: Magnum MSH3012M Inverter Install","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1117947"},"body":"Hi ahamade,

No, that is not correct because the Magnum will be providing for the 12 volt needs when you are on shore power, up to 125 amps @ 12 volts (nominal).

The converter can be used as a back up, or even at the same time as the Magnum. But the Magnum blows a wfco converter pretty much right out of the water as far as speed of recharging, and as an added benefit has temperature compensation.

ahamade wrote:
If I take the converter out of the equation by cutting its power then when I am plugged into shore power I do not get the benefit of running my 12 volt appliances off of shore power as they will always be running off of the battery. Is that not correct?
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No, that is not correct because the Magnum will be providing for the 12 volt needs when you are on shore power, up to 125 amps @ 12 volts (nominal).

The converter can be used as a back up, or even at the same time as the Magnum. But the Magnum blows a wfco converter pretty much right out of the water as far as speed of recharging, and as an added benefit has temperature compensation.

ahamade wrote:
If I take the converter out of the equation by cutting its power then when I am plugged into shore power I do not get the benefit of running my 12 volt appliances off of shore power as they will always be running off of the battery. Is that not correct?
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ahamade wrote:
If I take the converter out of the equation by cutting its power then when I am plugged into shore power I do not get the benefit of running my 12 volt appliances off of shore power as they will always be running off of the battery.
That is correct, but your nice new IC will be charging the batteries at the same time. I'm pretty sure it can handle your 12v needs, which is identical to running off a converter.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-03-11T19:55:21.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-03-11T19:55:21.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":421},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:DIYMaintenance/message:1117940/message:1117946","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"458","rawBody":"
ahamade wrote:
If I take the converter out of the equation by cutting its power then when I am plugged into shore power I do not get the benefit of running my 12 volt appliances off of shore power as they will always be running off of the battery.
That is correct, but your nice new IC will be charging the batteries at the same time. I'm pretty sure it can handle your 12v needs, which is identical to running off a converter.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1117946_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1117945":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1117945","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1117945":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:148334"},"id":"message:1117945","revisionNum":1,"uid":1117945,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:DIYMaintenance"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1117940"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1117940"},"subject":"Re: Magnum MSH3012M Inverter Install","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1117945"},"body":"Hi guys, thanks for the replys! My generator is a 4000K Onan built in generator. If I take the converter out of the equation by cutting its power then when I am plugged into shore power I do not get the benefit of running my 12 volt appliances off of shore power as they will always be running off of the battery. 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