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fmeili1
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Feb 09, 2022

Planning of a DIY LiFePO4 battery - air conditioned

Hi,
since a couple of weeks, I'm thinking and planning about building my own LiFePO4 battery to replace my two "old" lead acid 100AH AGM group 24 batteries (installed below the stairs) for my 2020 Entegra Odyssey 26D.

I would like to stay below $1,000 for the whole project and try to design the battery in a way that it would automatically heat and cool itself, depending of the ambient temperature to maximize life time and prevent damage. I don't want to move the battery to the inside of the coach because of space reasons, so it must fit in existing battery space. Later I think about adding solar, but first the new battery has to be build.

So far I've a battery design with the following components in my head:
- 4x EVE 280k, 3.2V, 280AH grade A cells (from an US distributor - about $540)
- JBD BMS 4S 12V 200A (about $125)
- TEC1-12706 peltier cooler/heater with two headsinks and two fans, max. 70 watts (about $25)
- 2x digital temperature controller XH-W3001 (about $10)
- 2x SPDT and 1x DPDT relay to control the peltier/fans with the temperature controllers
- Renogy 500A shunt mounted on the battery (display mounted inside the rig) - (I already have that - costs about $75)
- 300A circuit breaker (about $20)
- CellMeter8 battery cell monitor ($14)

Some additional design considerations:
- Everything should be mounted in/at a wooden box made from 1/4" thick plywood (<=7.5" width, <=14.5" heigth, <=22" length).
- the peltier heatsink located inside of the battery needs a small funnel underneath with a pipe to get rid of the condensate water if cooled
- the DPDT relay is required to change the polarity of the peltier to choose between cooling and heating
- the two SPDT relays are required in XOR to only active the peltier if either of the heat or cool thermostat is active, but NOT if both are active by mistake!
- the conditioned airflow of the pletier (directed via a plexiglass sheet) runs over, under and one end of the battery (too less space on the side of the cells)

Here is the planned schema:


The battery should look like this:







I would be interested in your opinions and suggestions for improvements!

Thanks in advance,
Frank
  • Thanks for your comments. My first idea for heating was also to use heat pads. But for active cooling (beside just a fan), I don't have many options beside a peltier. The idea is, even if the peltier (in fact a heat pump) has a relatively bad efficiency, it will be more efficient as a heat pad for heating. Because I need the peltier anyway for cooling, I've decided to use it also for heating and so I don't need additional heat pads.
  • theoldwizard1 wrote:
    Moving air does a good job of cooling if it is properly directed. Check out Noctua fans. Very quiet and last a long time


    That and make sure they are shaded with an airgap.

    Basically any location that is so hot the batteries have problems, you probably aren't going to want to be there without air/con for you anyway.
  • How hot do you expect these cells to get? Top of the operating range is 120F to 140F.
  • Peltier coolers are not very efficient. You need to study them more regarding how much heat energy they can actually move. Anyone who has tried to use them in refrigeration gave up and went to a compressor solution.

    Moving air does a good job of cooling if it is properly directed. Check out Noctua fans. Very quiet and last a long time

    For heating, I would go with some kind of heating pad.

    Your housing needs several coats of epoxy.

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