2014 Florida Statute on Double Towing

Pete_k wrote:

GrumpyandGrandma wrote:
This discussion has been going on forever... There are post after post by people who have double towed in the State of FL with no ramifications. What is interesting is FL law has seperate definitions for trailer and fw a trailer cannot exceed 40 ft and a fw cannot have more than 400 sq ft of living space no mention of length.

According to a large trailer dealer in Daytona, double towing with a FW is legal and if you ever travel I-75 you see it all the time. Also it is done by people visiting Walt Disney World pulling golf carts behind their FW and they are FL residents.:?

So the "discussion", "disagreement" or what ever continues.:)

SEE BELOW and ABOVE

So right back the end of June. I lost count of the Double trailers in Fl we seen.
Pete

My travels to FL over the years have reflected the same results. Especially at Disney's Ft Wilderness where we go often.

GrumpyandGrandma wrote:
This discussion has been going on forever... There are post after post by people who have double towed in the State of FL with no ramifications. What is interesting is FL law has seperate definitions for trailer and fw a trailer cannot exceed 40 ft and a fw cannot have more than 400 sq ft of living space no mention of length.

According to a large trailer dealer in Daytona, double towing with a FW is legal and if you ever travel I-75 you see it all the time. Also it is done by people visiting Walt Disney World pulling golf carts behind their FW and they are FL residents.:?

So the "discussion", "disagreement" or what ever continues.:)

SEE BELOW and ABOVE

So right back the end of June. I lost count of the Double trailers in Fl we seen.
Pete

Francesca Knowles wrote:

ogfalconsr wrote:
have you experienced or seen a highway incident regarding this type of activity?

Not personally, but:

KSL News wrote:
KSL News) One man was killed, four others injured in an accident on Interstate 80 near Echo at milepost 170 in Summit County.

The Utah Highway Patrol says the driver, 40-year-old Ty R. Richins, was traveling westbound on I-80 Sunday pulling a camping trailer and Jeep Wrangler behind his 1990 Ford F-350. The trailer and Jeep began to sway back and forth forcing the truck off the road. The truck hit a post and part of an exit sign, overturning the truck, which then rolled.

The truck, trailer and Jeep separated. The trailer and the Jeep overturned and rolled onto the Interstate, blocking the lanes of travel.

Richins, who is from Syracuse, was ejected from the vehicle suffering major trauma to his head and torso. He was found dead under the truck.

...........snip................

Richins was not exceeding the speed limit, but the highway patrol says due to the weight of all three vehicles, speed was a factor in the crash.

Link to full story, pictures

IIRC the "LEGAL" speed limit in UTAH is 80. Anybody towing at that speed is asking for trouble no matter what it is single or double especially since RV tires are speed rated at 65. They said the speed for the weight, so the fact that he had 2 trailers was not the main cause. Driving like an IDIOTwas.

ogfalconsr wrote:
have you experienced or seen a highway incident regarding this type of activity?

Not personally, but:

KSL News wrote:
KSL News) One man was killed, four others injured in an accident on Interstate 80 near Echo at milepost 170 in Summit County.

The Utah Highway Patrol says the driver, 40-year-old Ty R. Richins, was traveling westbound on I-80 Sunday pulling a camping trailer and Jeep Wrangler behind his 1990 Ford F-350. The trailer and Jeep began to sway back and forth forcing the truck off the road. The truck hit a post and part of an exit sign, overturning the truck, which then rolled.

The truck, trailer and Jeep separated. The trailer and the Jeep overturned and rolled onto the Interstate, blocking the lanes of travel.

Richins, who is from Syracuse, was ejected from the vehicle suffering major trauma to his head and torso. He was found dead under the truck.

...........snip................

Richins was not exceeding the speed limit, but the highway patrol says due to the weight of all three vehicles, speed was a factor in the crash.

Link to full story, pictures

Dog Folks wrote:

ogfalconsr wrote:

Dog Folks wrote:

ogfalconsr wrote:


I’m not trying to be argumentative but If I may let me offer another scenario for your consideration. If I work for an RV transport company, I hold a commercial driver license, hold in accordance with the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations a Medical Examiner’s Certificate #3393280124, and my personal pickup truck is registered as a commercial vehicle then under Florida statutes I can legally haul/pull more than two trailers ( the tow vehicle, 5th wheel, vehicle trailer behind the 5th wheel) in your state. Is that right?
Gene

DHSMW said:"Your 5th wheel (RV) would not qualify as a commercial vehicle." It does not qualify as a commercial vehicle under Federal Standards. The tow vehicle AND what is towed has to qualify.

I doubt that a new 5th wheel would be any different and qualify either.

Hey you're a Floridian and a tow meister, why aren't you jumping on the bandwagon to get this outdated statute changed? It would have to be a resident of Florida to get things moving forward not some dude from Texas. Changing it would be a great benefit all around!:B :h

Flame on if you want but: I happen to agree with the legislature that double towing is dangerous.

Regardless of how few accidents may have involved doubles,I have seen enough of them on the road to know that, I, personally, do not want to be anywhere near them when on the road.

I appreciate your opinion. One question though,what makes you think double tow is dangerous? Is it a feeling you have or have you experienced or seen a highway incident regarding this type of activity? Inquiring minds want to know.:@

avvidclif1 wrote:

ogfalconsr wrote:

Wadcutter wrote:
I wrote earlier:
"What I gave you was not an assumption. I spent over 42 yrs in LE including a number of years answering questions from the public concerning the laws. When they didn't get the answer they wanted it was always followed up with either "Why?" or "I don't agree with that."
You know double tow is illegal in FL. Asking FHP "why?" won't get you the answer you want to hear. "
Read the posts a few above this one. He proved my point exactly as I predicted. Don' get the answer you want? Then argue with those who aren't the ones with the power to get it changed.
Thank you for proving my point. I spent enough time in my career dealing with just such people. It's not information they want, they just want to argue with someone in a lame attempt to try and make a point.

Wow-Mr almighty has spoken, spoken like a true law enforcement officer that you are! Your comment probably would carry more weight had you been from Florida. If one doesn't challenge the crappy laws nothing gets changed!

You still haven't gotten it thru your head. The people you are fussing and arguing with CAN'T change the law. It has to be thru the legislative process with (usually) an amendment proposed by a State legislator. I doubt any Florida legislator is going to listen to a non-constituent.

Actually you haven't gotten it. In several of my posts I've stated 2 things: 1)it takes the legislative process and 2)to initiate the process it takes a resident of Florida to contact their legislator to move forward. Otherwise everything said within this post is moot. It is not and never has been up to some dude from Texas to straighten out a Florida statute.

I simply wanted to get to the root of why the statute was written so perhaps someone in Florida would have the data. So, at the end of the day it will be up to Florida and hopefully some lurking Floridians of this here topic to think about the statute perhaps take up the cause to change the language. If not, no sweat off my back. Knowledge is power!

Now let's quit the flaming program here.:C

ogfalconsr wrote:

Dog Folks wrote:

ogfalconsr wrote:


I’m not trying to be argumentative but If I may let me offer another scenario for your consideration. If I work for an RV transport company, I hold a commercial driver license, hold in accordance with the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations a Medical Examiner’s Certificate #3393280124, and my personal pickup truck is registered as a commercial vehicle then under Florida statutes I can legally haul/pull more than two trailers ( the tow vehicle, 5th wheel, vehicle trailer behind the 5th wheel) in your state. Is that right?
Gene

DHSMW said:"Your 5th wheel (RV) would not qualify as a commercial vehicle." It does not qualify as a commercial vehicle under Federal Standards. The tow vehicle AND what is towed has to qualify.

I doubt that a new 5th wheel would be any different and qualify either.

Hey you're a Floridian and a tow meister, why aren't you jumping on the bandwagon to get this outdated statute changed? It would have to be a resident of Florida to get things moving forward not some dude from Texas. Changing it would be a great benefit all around!:B :h

Flame on if you want but: I happen to agree with the legislature that double towing is dangerous.

Regardless of how few accidents may have involved doubles,I have seen enough of them on the road to know that, I, personally, do not want to be anywhere near them when on the road.

ogfalconsr wrote:

Wadcutter wrote:
I wrote earlier:
"What I gave you was not an assumption. I spent over 42 yrs in LE including a number of years answering questions from the public concerning the laws. When they didn't get the answer they wanted it was always followed up with either "Why?" or "I don't agree with that."
You know double tow is illegal in FL. Asking FHP "why?" won't get you the answer you want to hear. "
Read the posts a few above this one. He proved my point exactly as I predicted. Don' get the answer you want? Then argue with those who aren't the ones with the power to get it changed.
Thank you for proving my point. I spent enough time in my career dealing with just such people. It's not information they want, they just want to argue with someone in a lame attempt to try and make a point.

Wow-Mr almighty has spoken, spoken like a true law enforcement officer that you are! Your comment probably would carry more weight had you been from Florida. If one doesn't challenge the crappy laws nothing gets changed!

You still haven't gotten it thru your head. The people you are fussing and arguing with CAN'T change the law. It has to be thru the legislative process with (usually) an amendment proposed by a State legislator. I doubt any Florida legislator is going to listen to a non-constituent.

Wadcutter wrote:
I wrote earlier:
"What I gave you was not an assumption. I spent over 42 yrs in LE including a number of years answering questions from the public concerning the laws. When they didn't get the answer they wanted it was always followed up with either "Why?" or "I don't agree with that."
You know double tow is illegal in FL. Asking FHP "why?" won't get you the answer you want to hear. "
Read the posts a few above this one. He proved my point exactly as I predicted. Don' get the answer you want? Then argue with those who aren't the ones with the power to get it changed.
Thank you for proving my point. I spent enough time in my career dealing with just such people. It's not information they want, they just want to argue with someone in a lame attempt to try and make a point.

Wow-Mr almighty has spoken, spoken like a true law enforcement officer that you are! Your comment probably would carry more weight had you been from Florida. If one doesn't challenge the crappy laws nothing gets changed!

I wrote earlier:
"What I gave you was not an assumption. I spent over 42 yrs in LE including a number of years answering questions from the public concerning the laws. When they didn't get the answer they wanted it was always followed up with either "Why?" or "I don't agree with that."
You know double tow is illegal in FL. Asking FHP "why?" won't get you the answer you want to hear. "
Read the posts a few above this one. He proved my point exactly as I predicted. Don' get the answer you want? Then argue with those who aren't the ones with the power to get it changed.
Thank you for proving my point. I spent enough time in my career dealing with just such people. It's not information they want, they just want to argue with someone in a lame attempt to try and make a point.