2017 f250 towing fifth wheel

Not sure on heavy duty service package ill have to check. I know it has some sort of heavy duty tow package. came with the 3" hitch in the back and overload springs and such. think they mentioned something about the front springs being heavy duty for snow plow or something? Ive tried to ask my salesman some questions but all he does is quote whats online so I don't know

N-Trouble wrote:

donn0128 wrote:
What ever you get keep the GVWR under about 12,000 pounds. Otherwise you will be overloading your truck. Length is immaterial weight is.

^^THIS^^

Dont listen to the “get a bumper pull” nonsense.

Exactly, If I went by payload alone, with my other Jayco, some firewood and a 4 wheeler I'd be 'overweight'.

donn0128 wrote:
What ever you get keep the GVWR under about 12,000 pounds. Otherwise you will be overloading your truck. Length is immaterial weight is.

^^THIS^^

Dont listen to the “get a bumper pull” nonsense.

Keith P wrote:
the tires are F (127Q) rated and and say 3860 @ 80psi

Fords OEM 18" and 20" wheels are rated 3590 lb capacity or 7180 lb capacity.
The '17 F250 has a 6390 rawr good for 3000-3200 lbs in the bed all depending on your trucks actual scaled rear axle weights.

A trucks RAWR includes tires/wheels and rear spring pack ratings.

If your F250 has the camper package or heavy service package it has the same 7230 rawr tire/wheel and spring packs as the F350 SRW trucks.

Keith P wrote:
I have read that on the new ones but figured it would be safe to have or am I over thinking it?

I would not say over thinking, but you may be over paying in dollars and weight, for something not needed. No different than backing a boat or travel trailer, at some point you will hit, if you twist them far enough.

If you have the puck system for hitch mounting, you can get the B&W Companion for OEM Ford. It is adjustable ahead/back, and weighs 153 lbs.

Jerry

CampingN.C. wrote:
Welcome to the forum and congrats on the new camper. One of the first things you'll learn on here is that there's two crowds of people.

One that thinks if you go one pound over any of your weight ratings your truck will fall apart and you'll be sued before you can get to the first stop light. They will tell you you're crazy for looking at 5th wheels with a 250 and that you're a fool for not buying a dually.

Then there are those of us that know current class 2 trucks (F250) are a very capable truck and built almost entirely identical to a F350 single wheel. This crowd will care much more about the RAWR and tire ratings on a truck and not the "payload' rating. Your truck will gross out at 10K like every other 250/2500 regardless of make, engine or options. This 10k limit is an arbitrary number established by the government.

Personally I would tell you to keep your shopping to units with no more than 3000lb LOADED pin weight. I just purchased a 13000lb toyhauler with roughly 2800ln pin weight and my truck squatted exaclty one inch.

If you shop strictly on your available payload per door sticker you'll be all but limited to large travel trailers and very small 5th wheels.

X2---X3----X4----X5-----XXXXXX10

Exactly-----
RAWR/Tire max Load and GCVWR (Truck/Trailer Total weight)

10K GVWR.......Rear Axle is going to give you roughly 3000# of capacity before reaching RAWR

I have a 07 3500.......RAWR 6200#
Tow 14K (13,873# scaled weight) 5th wheel
Wet pin is 3090# putting me right at RAWR, under rear tire max load ratings and under GCVWR

Towing since NOV 2006
7 yrs FT....ALL over the USA
No 'white knuckle' events----No 'OMG we're all gonna die'
No 'dang should have used a Dually'

Great combo....tow match
Excellent handling even in hard maneuvering due to truck cutting us off, hard stopping on curve when bear ran out in front of us, etc etc etc


RAWR/Tire Max Load Ratings/GCVWR......AT or UNDER

(GVWR is a 'warranty/registration' number)

Also the tires are Nitto ridge grappler tires.

I have read that on the new ones but figured it would be safe to have or am I over thinking it?

Keith P wrote:
the tires are F (127Q) rated and and say 3860 @ 80psi

You are in great shape for tires. Your RAWR, which includes available springs will likely be determining weight factor. That is a heavy hitch you mentioned. Many newer FWs have rounded fronts, that don't really require a heavy slider. I have never had a slider in any of my 6' 9" bed Fords.

Jerry

Keith P wrote:
the tires are F (127Q) rated and and say 3860 @ 80psi

So you have 7700lbs of tire capacity which is great, curious what size tires and wheels those are?
You basically need to weight the truck loaded with hitch and subtract that number by your RAWR. That number will be on your door sticker.

Not sure about the Fords but my Ram has a 6500lb axle and and it weighed 3400lbs with my hitch. Leaving me approx. 3100lbs of capacity left.