Another "am I overloaded" thread

tim1970 wrote:
Thanks for all the input. I stopped by a CAT scale today and weighed my truck. With the fuel tank as full as I could possibly get it, and with my daughter in the back seat my truck had the following weight:

Front: 4920
Rear: 3260
Total: 8180

Unfortunately I can't weigh my truck and RV until after I purchase the RV. I figure the 5th wheel hitch will add another 200, the only other passenger will be my wife and should only add 75lbs (just in case she reads this. :) ) I really don't expect much more gear in the truck except for maybe a blanket and pillow for the passengers, so figure at most another 50lbs. I will also figure 100 lbs of additional stuff in the bed of the truck, which brings my weight to 8605 (+ or - a few lbs on the passenger weight :) )

So, going by the 10K GVWR sticker on my truck I am left with just under 1400lbs for pin weight. Or, if I go by the RAWR of 6100, I figure to have about 2400 for pin weight after passengers, hitch, and cargo.

While I do not plan to get a 5th wheel with a 2400 lb pin weight when loaded, I am starting to feel comfortable exceeding the 10K limit. The main reasons are because I have the same axle as the F350 SRW, along with 20" rims with tires rated at 3750 each, and I can always use air bags to level my truck if needed. (Yes, I know air bags do not increase payload)

Am I way off in my thinking? Here are the 2 trailers we are looking at

Jayco Eagle HT 29.5FBDS
unloaded weight: 8195
unloaded hitch weight : 1590
GVWR: 9950
This is advertised as a 1/2 ton towable, yet I am technically unable to tow it with my 3/4 ton :?

Keystone Hideout 315RDTS
unloaded weight: 9450
unloaded hitch weight: 1695
GVWR: 11855

Are these ok? Without being able to hitch up and weigh and trailer fully loaded, what parameters should I look at for 5th wheels? GVWR under 12K? under 10K???

If you made it this far, thanks for reading

Tim1970, your TV weights are about what I expected, just a tad fatter than my 2001.

Based on scale weights, you have 2,840# to play with for pin and hitch. you will still be fine on your rear axle.

Our 5er has a Dry weight of 9,620# and a GVWR of 12,360# we have it loaded to about 11,000# +/- some. I think you would be happy with either of those 5er's.

Yep, the curse of the 250/2500 over the GVWR. That works for me and my rig, you need to decide for yourself.

ON EDIT FYI: When we got the Copper Canyon, I knew we would be well over the Ram's 8,800# GVWR, so I stated that I needed to hook up the 5er to my TV BEFORE signing the papers. Once it was connected and the landing gear raised, and it didn't drop any more than with our older 28' 5er, we promptly signed.