I will second all of those that say they would not have another fifth wheel without auto leveling. We bought a 2013 Cedar Creek 30RL with the auto level. We absolutely love it. Also as we get older, the convenience of the auto level is awesome. We love the 30RL but Cedar Creek took it out of the line in 2014. The actual length is just over 34'. It has the best layout in the living area of any we looked at. The pantry space is a little sparse but that was a trade off we could live with. As Sandsorrel said, Cedar Creek customer support is excellent. So if you are looking in this length, you might try to find a gently used 2013 CC 30RL. There may also be few 2012 30RL's out there.