travelnutz wrote:
Some of the posters are not thinking of the actual brochure weight of the 2009 Cameo 36FWS dry OEM 5th wheel. It's 10,425 lbs dry axle weight per the brochure spec and that includes the weight of the axles, springs, wheels, and tires as it's scale weighed with the 4 RV tires only being on the scale, and does not include the pin weight. The 2825 lb pin weight on the hitch in the brochure is on the truck's rear wheels only, NOT on the 5th wheels axles. So, the 2 - 7,000 lb capacity axles = 14,000 lbs actual can be carried on top of axles. Weight sitting ON the axles. The tires, wheels, and axles weight is on the ground, not carried on top of the axle and has nothing to do with the axle's weight carrying mac capacity. Incredibly easy to understand!
14,000 of axle capacity minus 10,425 brochure dry axle weight = 3575 lbs but the weight of the axles, wheels and tire's is included in he 10,425 lbs. You can subtract the combined weight of the axles, wheels, and tires to find the weight that is actually not on the axles in the dry OEM Cameo 36FWS 5th wheel and add it to the 3575 available CCC on the axles. However, you must subtract the weight of the springs themselves from the actual available CCC as their weight must also be accounted for also. Only the weight loaded on top of the RV axles is carried by the axles. The only other weight in a 5th wheel is on the pin!
No matter how you calculate or figure it, there's an absolute min of 3575 capacity left on the 2 - 7,000 lb axles, so what's the problem and why even think about changing to 8,000 lb axles???
Even if the generator and the added bedroom A/C (very generous) weight of 500 lbs is subtracted from the 3575 (and not even accounting for the heavy axles, wheels, and tires weights that must be added to the 3575), there's still 3,075 lbs of CCC left for water, sewage, and personal loaded items.
The pin weight has nothing to do with a trailer's axle weight as any and all pin weight is on the truck's rear tires even if it was 10,000 lbs.
The 4 RV Tires should have a min of 3400 lbs capacity each at full inflation. 4 times 3400 = 13,600 lbs on the RV tires as the pin weight in NOT on the tires. if the tires on the used 5th wheel have more than 3400 lbs capacity per tire, add the amount over per tire times 4 to the 13,600 mentioned.
Please tell me where there's a need for higher rated axles or tires???
If Jane had the Salesperson read the CCC=951# on the yellow sticker that is in the rig it makes it pretty hard to dispute??
Given printed CCC of 1749# on the brochure as per your previous post and the installation of generator, fuel tank, second A/C and who knows what else.
I don't see it as a stretch to get to 951# ACTUAL CCC on the sticker.
