waltbennett wrote:
CC sometimes is determined including water & propane, but is usually bone dry of everything. In real life, at the level this one has, you'd be probably over if you put a couple rolls of toilet paper in.
The rules are different than when we started RVing. Then, weights disclosures were more an imaginary thing. In 2000 RVIA developed a labeling requirement that members were suppose to use. Included in those requirements was one that manufactures had to post the cargo carrying capacity of the coach. But there were no real teeth in the RVIA standards.
Things changed in late 2007, when the federal government, through NHSTA, finalized their own regulations and labeling requirements.
From the preamble to the regulations:
we are requiring that the stated load carrying capacity not overload the vehicle. The GVWR of the vehicle must not be exceeded when the vehicle is loaded with the stated load carrying capacity. Manufacturers are permitted to understate the value of load carrying capacity to compensate for variances in manufacturing techniques, materials, and weighing techniques, however, under no circumstances is an overstated value of load carrying capacity permitted. Any inaccuracies due to scale tolerances and variances in manufacturing techniques or materials must be compensated for by appropriately increasing the safety factor between the allotted weight for occupants and cargo (or just cargo in the case of RV trailers) and the GVWR. Accordingly, the probability of moisture absorption by wooden structures before first retail sale should be considered in assigning the load carrying capacity.
Included in the regulations:
When weight is added between final vehicle certification and first retail sale, the load carrying capacity values on the labels must be corrected using one or a combination of the following methods: (a) Adding a load carrying capacity modification label within 25 mm of the existing vehicle (FMVSS No. 110) placard, and/or the motor home OCCC label, or RV trailer CCC label (FMVSS Nos. 110 and 120); (b) modifying the original permanent RV load carrying capacity label or vehicle placard with correct load carrying capacity weight values; or (c) replacing the original, permanent RV load carrying capacity label or vehicle placard with the same label or placard containing correct load carrying capacity weight values.
Federal Registry
In the end, you may find some manufactures that will cheat on the numbers, but not like in the old days. The Feds have too much clout.
Tom
