Carlisles ST's? Straight Up, Yes or No?

Me Again wrote:

RinconVTR wrote:


How about the fact Carlisle RH series being rated to 87mph?

Straight off Carlisle web site just now!

"– Best practice. Do not exceed 60 mph while towing a trailer.
– Most ST trailer tires have a maximum speed rating of 65 mph
-Load carrying capacity decreases as heat and stress generated by
higher speed increases.
– Time and the elements weaken a trailer tire.
– 3 to 5 years is the average life expectancy of a trailer tire,
regardless of mileage.
– It is estimated that in approximately three years, roughly
one-third of a tire's strength is gone"

Like I said, they talk out of both sides of there mouths.

Chris

Ratings vs best practice are not equal. So, what's your point?

dieseltruckdriver wrote:
To the point of your post, which most have ignored, or didn't read....

I took off the Carlisle 15" STs off our 5er, and went with 16" Cooper LTs.
We had used Coopers for several years, and were the tire of choice for my wife on her Jeeps.

The person we camp with extensively put the same Coopers on his 5er that we put on ours. He switched to LTs after he blew 3 ST tires on a 1200 mile drive.

I still have the Carlisles on wheels if anyone really wants them.

I'll take those off your hands. I use them for light weight tile carts for my business. I'll be out in Hill City this July. I can get them out of your way. Haha

hone eagle wrote:
My last trailer (triple E) came from the factory with michelin ribs

Can you show us a picture of your trailer's certification label?

FastEagle

Tow Max came out with a new design about 3 years ago with a cap that was supposed to fix the "Blow Max" nickname. All was fine until reports of the new design failing started to surface. I replaced my LRD Tow Max tires with LRE Maxxis tires that have two years and 9,000 miles on them.

I put on 15" load range E Carlisle RH tires last year left Vermont in May and towed 5,000 miles through Newfoundland and Labrador on some of the worst roads I have ever been on. No problems. I guess time will tell on the new Carlisles.

My last trailer (triple E) came from the factory with michelin ribs

Also, would someone please show us all ANY tire manufacture recommending LT tires on a trailer. Goodyear leaves the door open, but they do not come out recommending anything.

You must be a new guy to the trailering world.
A little history for ya'.
Before the ST tire came out all we had for trailers were passenger (P) and truck tires (LT).
Lots of RV trailers/equipment trailers/cargo trailers/larger boat trailers/etc have came OEM with some brand of LT tire.

Michelin says this about a LT tire; oh yeah and they work great on RV trailers also...

Michelin® XPS Rib® tires are the best value per mile in the Michelin commercial tire lineup and an ideal choice for commercial trailers because of low rolling resistance (for better fuel economy), a long-wear tread design and retreadability. These tires also have the strength of a reinforced all-steel construction for lasting durability.
Responsive handling helps you negotiate through tough traffic
Greater durability and puncture
resistance from a third steel belt.
Easily retreadable all-steel casing
Lowest cost per mile in this category
Resists sidewall damage with the sculptured sidewall protector.
Sidewall: black serrated
outline lettering.
Load Range: E
Service Description: 120/116Q

We have emails from Michelin/Goodyear/Cooper/BFG recommending their LT tire for trailer service.

This example from Bridgestone;

Bridgestone reply

Question: "Do you endorse and warranty the Duravis R250 for trailer use? If so what is the warranty period?
Thanks"

Answer:
Yes, the Duravis R250 is capable of being used on any wheel position, including trailer.

The warranty period is for 5 years or upon wearing down to 2/32nds remaining tread depth, whichever comes first, for workmanship/material.

There is no mileage warranty.

Thank you for the opportunity to be of assistance.
Regards,

Greg McDonald

Engineering Manager Corporate Accounts

Bridgestone America's Tire Operations

615-937-3425"

Me Again wrote:

RinconVTR wrote:


How about the fact Carlisle RH series being rated to 87mph?

Straight off Carlisle web site just now!

"– Best practice. Do not exceed 60 mph while towing a trailer.
– Most ST trailer tires have a maximum speed rating of 65 mph
-Load carrying capacity decreases as heat and stress generated by
higher speed increases.
– Time and the elements weaken a trailer tire.
– 3 to 5 years is the average life expectancy of a trailer tire,
regardless of mileage.
– It is estimated that in approximately three years, roughly
one-third of a tire's strength is gone"

Like I said, they talk out of both sides of there mouths.

Chris

Chris, Chris...Some have made up their minds ,, please don't confuse them with pertinent information straight from Carlisle themselves:)

Well folks, despite a very strong sales pitch from the Discount manager, I went ahead and put the Cooper LT's on. Although the temptation was strong, I just couldn't get past Carlisle's past rep. If the rep of the RH's hold, my next set will prob be Carlisles. We only use our 5er less than 5,000 miles a year. Thank you again for your opinions. Some very convincing arguments kept me flip-flopping up to the last minute. Thanks again, all.

I had two sets of Carlisle I this 5er. 3.5 years was fine but 4 years and they grenaded. I got cooper discoverer ht3 now. Cooper recommends the ht3 for trailers. Craig